Free the weed, dope, cannabis, hooch, Fri 4 Feb, outside Auckland District Courts

[Edbear]

So are you ok for in principle for cannabis to be legal to be used via a vaporiser or eaten? Both of these methods negate the ill effects of smoking.


Cool, next.

PS - And if your argument is of the details of implementing/enforcing such a law, there are similar laws in effect now. Eg, you can own poppies but you're not allowed to extract the stuff. You can have a presciption of morphine but you can't cook it and shoot it up or sell it.

Not so fast, young man... I have posted my views on mind-altering substances as well in general and I don't agree with drug or alcohol use for the reasons I gave. I prefer to remain sober and in full control of my faculties and do not enjoy the feelings of a lack of control and awareness that comes from such. When I drink alcohol it is to enjoy the taste and I had a glass of wine last night with dinner. On a hot day I enjoy a beer or a Maverick, but usually stop at one due to the effects of alcohol.

I hate people who do weddings for the same reason

[Banditbandit]

Nah, everybody will be too stoned to care......

Bwhahahahaha ... in my experience stoned people want drama .. and if they don't get it they create it ...

[onearmedbandit]

Bwhahahahaha ... in my experience stoned people want drama .. and if they don't get it they create it ...

In my experience, which I do consider to be substantial enough, most people that smoke weed just want to enjoy themselves quietly with a smoke. The number of people I have smoked with would number in the hundreds, and I can only think of one or two who liked drama. And they were the sort to attract drama with or without marijuana.

Alcohol however, well that's definitely a 'look-at-me-look-at-me' drug. The hospital wards and police cells are full of alcohol-fuelled drama seeking people every weekend.

[imdying]

have you considered doing research to find out how and why and in fact whether cannabis has such a benefit? Wouldn't that give you huge credibility, and maybe win the support of the medical profession?

You're way over-simplifying things and are in error

Uh huh... well, I think he'll stop when you do first

[imdying]

Bwhahahahaha ... in my experience stoned people want drama .. and if they don't get it they create it ...

Well what do you expect when you hang around with Maoris...

[marty]

do I? can you please tell others that then, start with the cops

i look after my own back yard. i don't give a toss about anyone elses until they impinge on mine. then we'll be having tea and bikkies.

[marty]

Definitely agree with your last point. If you are affected to such an extent that you cannot operate machinery, or yourself, at work then you should be shown the door. Also agree that you don't have to employ someone if you don't want to. But to dismiss someone on a Monday for something they did on Friday or Saturday night, which has absolutely no affect on their capacity to carry out their work on the Monday seems to me a bit extreme.

so you'd be comfortable for your airline pilot to get stoned all weekend as long as he/she got to work on time on monday morning?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Not so fast, young man... I have posted my views on mind-altering substances as well in general and I don't agree with drug or alcohol use for the reasons I gave. I prefer to remain sober and in full control of my faculties and do not enjoy the feelings of a lack of control and awareness that comes from such. When I drink alcohol it is to enjoy the taste and I had a glass of wine last night with dinner. On a hot day I enjoy a beer or a Maverick, but usually stop at one due to the effects of alcohol.

but it's not about you. by your own admission, short of compulsion, your use would not increase or decrease with legalisation.

Why do you think it is OK to tell me what I can and can't, should or shouldn't do, in the privacy of my own home, with my money, with other consenting adults? Because in effect that is what you are doing.

I am not actually trying to reduce this to an ad hominem argument, but your objection seems to boil down to "I dont like it, and I think its bad for you, so you can't do it". I am happy with two of three of those propositions, but not the last one.

As I have said previously, in spite of the fact you choose not to indulge, a lot of people do, with little societal detriment, apart from attempting to enforce an unworkable set of laws.

[HenryDorsetCase]

so you'd be comfortable for your airline pilot to get stoned all weekend as long as he/she got to work on time on monday morning?

bad example. there are (and should be) rules in place for this: I think for commercial flights the rule is (for alcohol) 24 hours bottle to throttle. No reason why there can't (and, given the public safety/potential harm to others) shouldn't be similar sets of rules. And in fact for anyone in a job which puts public safety at risk: truck drivers, taxi drivers, people operating heavy machinery etc etc.

But if those people wish to indulge, and they can do so without compromising the safety of others, then what is the problem?

Do you think that the fact that meth is illegal will stop a long haul trucker taking a hit so he can do that last 200k's in record time?

[Madness]

but it's not about you. by your own admission, short of compulsion, your use would not increase or decrease with legalisation.

Why do you think it is OK to tell me what I can and can't, should or shouldn't do, in the privacy of my own home, with my money, with other consenting adults? Because in effect that is what you are doing.

I am not actually trying to reduce this to an ad hominem argument, but your objection seems to boil down to "I dont like it, and I think its bad for you, so you can't do it". I am happy with two of three of those propositions, but not the last one.

As I have said previously, in spite of the fact you choose not to indulge, a lot of people do, with little societal detriment, apart from attempting to enforce an unworkable set of laws.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to HenryDorsetCase again.

[onearmedbandit]

so you'd be comfortable for your airline pilot to get stoned all weekend as long as he/she got to work on time on monday morning?

And some aren't already doing that?

[imdying]

so you'd be comfortable for your airline pilot to get stoned all weekend as long as he/she got to work on time on monday morning?

They already are, and drinking, so it would only be the status quo.

[avgas]

so you'd be comfortable for your airline pilot to get stoned all weekend as long as he/she got to work on time on monday morning?

Silly fool - the do P.
Its out of the system in 48 hours - so if they have do drug test they pass with flying colours.

[imdying]

I prefer to remain sober and in full control of my faculties and do not enjoy the feelings of a lack of control and awareness that comes from such.

Translated:

I can't handle it, so I don't see why people who can should enjoy it.

[Edbear]

Translated:

Rather facetious aren't we...?