Police say had the rider been wearing...

[DangerMouseNZ]

*sits on the fence*

I have ridden with a Hi-Viz on and have had some appalling things happen (One instance, I made eye contact with a woman sat at a T junction and she still pulled out in front of me ). Like wise, I have driven a big van and, without the rear view mirror, there is a massive gap at the back of the van that a bike could very easily get lost in regardless of a hi-vis.

I don't think making Hi-Vis's legal would make any difference.. likewise, I don't think we can straight out blame the cops for using a very sad moment to remind all of us in the bike community that we need to investigate every angle to make ourselves more visible to the nutters out there who aren't very observant!!

That or make every single nut job ride a motorbike for a week... that would teach them lol

[Elysium]

Vehicles don't pull u-turns without giving some clues as to their intention.

Seriously wtf mate!?

[tri boy]

Read my lips......

I ain't a fucking moderator.

But you are the all knowing wank stain of KB.
Glow in the glory buddy.

[beama]

Read my lips......

I ain't a fucking moderator.

Oh please, I think we all say thank you for that small fact

[PrincessBandit]

The police report on I could find doesn't give any details

so

It was his time to go , and I would wish that on me worst enemy ( wife maybe ) but never on another human being

Moving away from this case to driving in general , couple of points

........
you know deep in your heart the answer ,

The answer from the police , well not very responsible , but as has been said some people can hit a train........

My suggestion .. just a suggestion , loose the I'm an important individual mentality ( i m right your wrong ) and just let other road users ,,,( why am I bothering , you ll never understand it anyway ,,,,,,) just let the other road users do what they want to do , read the traffic ,,and life will be sweet ,,,

Have a think ,

we are all just as bad , and my deepest sympathies go towards both the rider and the driver ,

before I sign off , and before you reach for the sanctimonious shit button , I have done the same thing , double decker bus , I DIDN'T see it and pulled out in front , broke its headlight , and I accelerated past the Enterprise faster than my wife get to the bank on pay day

Stephen

I'm sorry, try again - not enough vitriol in your post to make it worthy of the acid-slinging going on here.
For all that the OP was apparently aimed at the Police comment there is an awful lot of sledging going on between us. The pollies and Police will be sitting back laughing all the way to the bank (oops, sorry Stephen - not intended to steal from your last line which I quoted) to see us shred each other out of existence. The infighting is so bad that the old "divide and conquer" strategy is working a treat.

Look. Another rider was killed. Yes it is a tragedy; yes his family and friends will be grieving; yes the truck driver is probably devastated as well; yes we can place blame all we want but it will not stop these things from happening again. Do you think every motorists who hits the road goes out with the intention of killing someone? (And yes I am aware that there are an extreme few who do just that, I'm talking about the everyday Joe who is going about their normal business as opposed to nutjobs or suicides who take someone else out in the execution of their suicide). Of course not! We all yabber on here about "ride like every other road user is out to kill you" - does it stop all of us from dying on the road? NO.

How about we all take a deep breath, and be reminded by this awful event that WE - you and me - have much to be thankful for each day; that WE can still see our loved ones and tell them how much they mean to us, that WE can still enjoy whatever our lives are. All this shit slinging and venom is not going to do one scrap of good.

[pzkpfw]

Look. Another rider was killed. Yes it is a tragedy; yes his family and friends will be grieving; yes the truck driver is probably devastated as well; yes we can place blame all we want but it will not stop these things from happening again. Do you think every motorists who hits the road goes out with the intention of killing someone? (And yes I am aware that there are an extreme few who do just that, I'm talking about the everyday Joe who is going about their normal business as opposed to nutjobs or suicides who take someone else out in the execution of their suicide). Of course not! We all yabber on here about "ride like every other road user is out to kill you" - does it stop all of us from dying on the road? NO.

You are totally correct, but people are merely reacting to what they perceive as something which might be answered as:

Look. Another rider was killed. Yes it is a tragedy; yes his family and friends will be grieving; yes the truck driver is probably devastated as well; yes we can place blame all we want but it will not stop these things from happening again. Do you think every motorcyclist who hits the road goes out with the intention of killing themselves? (And yes I am aware that there are an extreme few who do just that, I'm talking about the everyday Joe who is going about their normal business as opposed to nutjobs or suicides who take someone else out in the execution of their suicide). Of course not! We all yabber on here about "ride like every other road user is out to kill you" - does it stop all of us from dying on the road? NO.

[scumdog]

Best thread for a long time for making me piss myself

I sell knicker-untwisting kits if any of the posters on this thread want to buy one. (Trust me, some of you need a whole carton of them)

[DMNTD:Me]

Dem's pretty bright, dude.

And those lights add up to about 50 mototcycle headlights.

Attachment 231181

And people still play chicken with 'em.

Yet people still have accident with them (f'knows how ).
Have commuted in Dorkland's rush hour traffic wearing a fluro for some time and the ONLY time it appeared to help was at night due to its reflective strips.

[Paul in NZ]

Perhaps this accident may have been avoided if the driver was wearing a hi viz vest or two?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4624...e-cars-collide

[Crazy Steve]

seem to have pulled the video from their website.

This isn't the first time they have been hung out to dry for their biased & inflammatory reporting.

Mabey the cop was quoted out of context,
Mabey the rider was looking to the right when the truck moved from his left.
Mabey the truck driver didn't look well enough.

Too many mabey's in there for me, I'll be interested to see what the SCU have to say on the incident.

The only thing that is KNOWN is that one rider is dead & one truck driver is having a really bad day.

Oh you call that a truck ? ?

I thought to be a truck you would at less need your Class 2 to drive it..

That Vehicle involved you would only need your Class 1 to drive.

It's a Real shame about the rider and I hope it isn't anyone that I know..

Crazy Steve.

[Crazy Steve]

Perhaps this accident may have been avoided if the driver was wearing a hi viz vest or two?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4624...e-cars-collide

That accident could of been avoided if the Police Man didn't have his hand on his partners Cock ! !

Crazy Steve.

[Pixie]

I don't need a hi-viz.

I ride with my eyes open.

Eyes open will do fuck all when they turn just after you pass their rear axle,my friend.

[scumdog]

Perhaps this accident may have been avoided if the driver was wearing a hi viz vest or two?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4624...e-cars-collide

While looking at that I discovered an article on fatal motorbike crash near Herbetville, a bike-only crash through a fence into trees.

A bad day for the 56 year old Upper Hutt rider.

NOT on topic I know but nobody else seemed to notice it.

[Paul in NZ]

While looking at that I discovered an article on fatal motorbike crash near Herbetville, a bike-only crash through a fence into trees.

A bad day for the 56 year old Upper Hutt rider.

NOT on topic I know but nobody else seemed to notice it.

There was a bad one in Wanganui as well... Not a good weekend at all.

I'm growing to dislike monday mornings - always a lot of bad news about.

[miloking]

Perhaps this accident may have been avoided if the driver was wearing a hi viz vest or two?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4624...e-cars-collide

I like the typical "covering our asses" statement:

"The initial indication is that speed isn't an issue and that both were travelling under the speed limit."

If it was two motorcyclists it woult probably be something like :The initial indication is that extreme speed & not wearing hi-viz was issue and that both criminal riders were under influence of something but we dont know what yet".

Fuck i hate these media spokesman "policing managers" faggots..