Police say had the rider been wearing...

[Eyegasm]

Can we start with the silly hats yet???

[bogan]

Can we start with the silly hats yet???

shhhh, don't give them ideas, high vis would be bad enough

[Smifffy]

Your right- the language used wasn't helpful and shifted the focus on what the rider COULD have done rarher that what the truck driver SHOULD BY LAW have done.

The drivers fuckup killed someone and the law doesnt say that a lesser charge will come about because the deceased was riding a motorcycle therefore contributed to his own injuries. (Yet)

You cant write off Katman though we are in a glass house biffing stones.

Thank you, that's all that I, and I think the MAG-NZ press statement were trying to say.

You stated it very clearly, and without emotional distractions.

It would be great if we could get that message through to Officers speaking to the media, and it would be awesome if the core of Katman's message would be taken up by bikers.

The question is how?

This is something that I hope MAG-NZ and the MSL can address.

[monkeymcbean]

Six months later a turkey went through a Give Way sign and T-boned her - totalled the car but fortunately she was only bruised ..

."

If forgot a human can be referred to as a 'turkey' 'phew' man that was a geat 'visual' in my head! wonderful picture

[Maha]

Thank you, that's all that I, and I think the MAG-NZ press statement were trying to say.

You stated it very clearly, and without emotional distractions.

It would be great if we could get that message through to Officers speaking to the media, and it would be awesome if the core of Katman's message would be taken up by bikers.

The question is how?

This is something that I hope MAG-NZ and the MSL can address.

In all likelyhood, the people appointed to head the MSL committee will probably make mandatory for motorcyclist to wear HI-VIZ in light of this.

MAG-NZ have addressed it by sending out a Nationwide press release to all areas of the media.

[jafar]

Anyone know if there is a link to watch Tv3 News last night and watch what was said.

http://www.3news.co.nz/3-News-Full-B...7/Default.aspx

The normal one dosn't seem to be working atm.

Crazy Steve.

they pulled it from the website last night mate.
I'd like to think they did it because they realised that they had gone over the top with their piss poor slanted sensationalism. Using the unfortunate death of someone to push a political viewpoint
But a more likely answer is they broke the rubber band in their propaganda machine.

[Genestho]

In all likelyhood, the people appointed to head the MSL committee will probably make mandatory for motorcyclist to wear HI-VIZ in light of this.

MAG-NZ have addressed it by sending out a Nationwide press release to all areas of the media.

I wouldn't speculate as to what MSL will or won't do, but I do know reference to Hi Viz has come up in the past in my dealings with certain factions, and I've questioned the effectiveness when the topic came up.

Whether Hi-Viz would be made a mandatory requirement, personally - I really have strong doubts, and to suggest so based on media comments would be scaremongering - I would think more 'promoting the use of'.

If Hi Viz was to become mandatory there was wide open opportunity to do so in consultations in 09 and last year.

But, no doubt there'd be those who're pushing for it to happen.

EDIT: Condolances to friends and family at this terrible time.

[scumdog]

They're letting them in young at the cop shop nowadays ay. Must be getting desperate.

No second prizes mate....

[James Deuce]

So I'm looking at importing one of these:



Much better idea because you don't have one of those stupid vests flapping about catching on things and making you even hotter in warm weather.

Knowing how the NZ Government writes legislation, I'll bet that I still have to wear a vest over it, even though this jacket meets US Military base specs for hi-vis clothing, designed deliberately to get around restrictions on motorcyclists riding onto bases or camps.

[jasonu]

I don't need a hi-viz.

I ride with my eyes open.

You are a total cunt.

[Scuba_Steve]

No second prizes mate....

oww man not even half a donut?

[jasonu]

[QUOTE=Paul in NZ;1129977901] Guys - you have to be careful reacting to media comments. It all gets cut up and chopped into controversial sound bites, who knows what ELSE the cop said because he doesnt get to decide what goes to air...

You are right but in this case most of the reactions, including mine are to stupid comments made by the likes of Katman.

[Katman]

The only stupidity in here that I can see is people suggesting that there are absolutely no clues to be had when a vehicle is about to perform a u-turn.

[Tink]

The only stupidity in here that I can see is people suggesting that there are absolutely no clues to be had when a vehicle is about to perform a u-turn.

Indicator, wheel turn, eyes in mirror staring behind (not ahead).... vehicle brake lights off hence vehicle about to move, (trucks are loud). ... anything else. Is that defensive riding.

PS I watch out for trucks a hell of a lot I HATE THEM !!!! Especially when the wheels feel bigger than me.

[Tink]

Ok I am over this thread... the abuse, and the fact it is soooo bloody obvious what it is all about... and what it is not about.

RIP