Too many classes at National Championship?

[Nonbeliever]

there was recently a classics festival held at Phillip Island, not sure how many classes were raced in total but each class got four races each, ranging from 7-10 laps.

who cares?

[dipshit]

From a spectator's view point... I go to the nationals to see top road racing... not club racing or freaking motocross bikes.

[scracha]

1.) says who??? what do you expect. packed paddocks with 100000 people?? 1000??? 2???

Try actually reading my original post. There's next to fuck all spectators. With the "attractions" at the track kept in their current state, this isn't likely to change. My point was we should target TV/Internet.
UK, 60 million people. British superbike round, 50,000 spectators.
NZ, 4 million people. NZ superbike round....<1000 spectators...even with free entry . You can't tell me this situation is normal.

2.) Theres at least 100+ odd racers on the weekend (and the weekend before) that condradict you. if you wanna race, you will afford it, you will make it happen. harden up

Ohhhh...100 odd racers out of 4 million population. So my point is made.

3.) See B above, most at levels were at invercargill, and ill place a bet on ruapuna, and there a fair few from up that way down here and a fair few going up too

And by far the majority are NOT going.

4.) You need to get your shit together and sort yourself out, theres plenty of us who are doing fine thanks.

But the majority are not. Typical kiwi "she'll be right" response. There's more racers out there who think the current situation is pretty fucked up than than me.

as for your comments re organisation, you only have to look around the world, esp. the USA to see very good riders not doing anything cause they can't bring money to teams to run them. there ain't no sponsorship there. And sure somethings may be cheaper, but i seriously doubt it takes less time, effort, cash or leave to compete at a serious level.

But what's wrong with trying to get organised, obtain sponsors and reduce rider costs?

[Kickaha]

Try actually reading my original post. There's next to fuck all spectators.

What crowd attendance figures do you base this statement on?

Have you been to any SI rounds? what would you consider good for a country this size or with the population base we have next to each track?

TV coverage is easy to get you just have to pay for it

Ohhhh...100 odd racers out of 4 million population. So my point is made.

It's not really much of a point, is there a set figure per capita we should have going racing?

How many would you expect?

And by far the majority are NOT going.

The majority aren't going because they think they're to slow for Nationals or they can't afford it or they can't be arsed or anyone of a number of excuses even though they have around 10-12 months to prepare

There's more racers out there who think the current situation is pretty fucked up than than me.

I'm curious as to what they're doing about it other than whinging on the internet?

Are they all actually racing the Nationals or not bothering and therefore reducing the numbers even more?

But what's wrong with trying to get organised, obtain sponsors and reduce rider costs?

Absolutely nothing, sort that out for us would ya

[lostinflyz]

But what's wrong with trying to get organised, obtain sponsors and reduce rider costs?

nothing, its a good thing.

Proposing to gut our only serious race series, cause so many dont't wont to front the time, money and effort is though.

Ohhhh...100 odd racers out of 4 million population. So my point is made.

there are about a million people who play rugby, only 300 or so are in the NPC, should they can the whole series cause theres not more????


Right, screw this ive got to get to chch now.

[Drew]

Try actually reading my original post. There's next to fuck all spectators. With the "attractions" at the track kept in their current state, this isn't likely to change. My point was we should target TV/Internet.
UK, 60 million people. British superbike round, 50,000 spectators.
NZ, 4 million people. NZ superbike round....<1000 spectators...even with free entry . You can't tell me this situation is normal.


Ohhhh...100 odd racers out of 4 million population. So my point is made.


And by far the majority are NOT going.




But the majority are not. Typical kiwi "she'll be right" response. There's more racers out there who think the current situation is pretty fucked up than than me.


But what's wrong with trying to get organised, obtain sponsors and reduce rider costs?

What crowd attendance figures do you base this statement on?

Have you been to any SI rounds? what would you consider good for a country this size or with the population base we have next to each track?

TV coverage is easy to get you just have to pay for it



It's not really much of a point, is there a set figure per capita we should have going racing?

How many would you expect?


The majority aren't going because they think they're to slow for Nationals or they can't afford it or they can't be arsed or anyone of a number of excuses even though they have around 10-12 months to prepare


I'm curious as to what they're doing about it other than whinging on the internet?

Are they all actually racing the Nationals or not bothering and therefore reducing the numbers even more?


Absolutely nothing, sort that out for us would ya

You pair of homos can discuss this at the track if Stevie comes down.

[Wingnut]

Proposing to gut our only serious race series

I would have thought the Tri Series is still regarded as being serious.....

Good luck for Ruapuna Tim.

[Biggles08]

Why are you moaning about track time Marcus? You get more than we do on the sidecars, and we pay the same as you do.

If you were in a different class, (where you might actually be competitive, though I struggle to think of one) you'd be saying the same stuff but including it aswell.

There have been countless threads saying that since there were usually only 9 superbikes on the grid a couple years back, they should be axed. Now there's a few more and you're calling it the premier class, what the fuck?

If racing here is so shit for you, (and Christ knows you piss and fuckin moan about it a hell of a lot), go do it some place where it fits the way you think it should go.

Oh yeah, whoever was talking about the support classes at GP meetings, they ran post classics at Phillip Island last year, they were OK to watch I guess, but the field was very bloody spread out at the end, and half of them didn't even run in the rain.

I love you Drew xxoo

[Drew]

I love you Drew xxoo

Come over to the sidecar pit for a cuddle tomorrow and some man lovin then.

[Kickaha]

Come over to the sidecar pit for a cuddle tomorrow and some man lovin then.

He's too soft to hang out with us,maybe if he pays a bribe

[Biggles08]

He's too soft to hang out with us,maybe if he pays a bribe

I love it when you homos fight over my arse!

[roadracingoldfart]

I love you Drew xxoo

Thats just wrong

Come over to the sidecar pit for a cuddle tomorrow and some man lovin then.

Thats just leading the wrong to be wrong

He's too soft to hang out with us,maybe if he pays a bribe

Maybe he can send the pit crew bitch over to play with you chair wallies.

I love it when you homos fight over my arse!

Ohh FFS Biggles , thats just asking for fertility implants mate. RUN>>>>>>>

[Drew]

Maybe he can send the pit crew bitch over to play with you chair wallies.

Doubt it, Dukie does his suspension and he steers well clear of us lot.

[chrispy121]

look the side chairs runied the nationals round at hamptons last year turning the track into a skid pan full of oil. that took a couple of hours to clean up and wasted a whole lot of time.

What I find funny is on the TV coverage of the tri series round they had
f1/motards both classes and side chairs.
where was the f2 class on tv?
if I want to watch motorcross bikes on tv I will watch the super cross

Let take a look at stats

There would be more 600cc supersport bikes in NZ then side cars or motards.
If you want more support from sponsors etc put on what people own and ride every day.

The reason the V8 formular is so successful is because you race on sunday buy of the shop floor Monday.
that why there are so many fords and holdens sold in this country.

now I know some one is going to say hey more people own motocross bikes in NZ than 600cc road bikes but most of them ride off road hence they can watch the supercross

A road race event should be for Road race bikes not abominations modified to run on the road

by the way I have both types of bike road and off road no three wheeled things though gave those up with my trusty trike when I was two years old

[scracha]

I love it when you homos fight over my arse!

Fighting for exclusive rights or just first dibs?