Wandering stock vs cheesewire

[scracha]

Many farmers are far too lax about keeping their animals off the road. Knackered fences, broken gates and electric tape will not stop most animals.
Not for the first time this year (40 days in), I encountered a cow wandering about a 100K road today.
Not for the first time, after knocking on a couple of doors, I got a the "not our problem" type response .
Not for the first time, I rung the local cop shop and their lack of interest was staggering.


Now I've seen locals hospitalised and their cars written off by hitting calves so the results of encountering a full sized cow on a motorbike don't bear thinking about. I reckon for most kiwi motorcyclists, hitting livestock is far more likely than hitting cheesewire.


Shouldn't MAG be bleating about this? Campaigning for a ban on putting livestock behind an electric tape on 100 k roads would be a start.

[steve_t]

What do the cops say? I wonder what they'd say if you tell them that you're gonna take the cow home with you
My mate hit a sheep with his car and the car was written off (as was the sheep). Man, a cow would be like hitting a brick wall

[scracha]

What do the cops say? I wonder what they'd say if you tell them that you're gonna take the cow home with you
My mate hit a sheep with his car and the car was written off (as was the sheep). Man, a cow would be like hitting a brick wall

Today, "sorry, we haven't anyone in the area, we'll try and get someone out in the next hour or two. Thanks for calling to report this"

Last time I managed to get another driver and we put the 2 cows into the closest field that had a gate.

Time before that, policeman said "yeah, they get out on that road a lot. I'll phone some of the houses on that road to see if they can move them".


Obviously nobody ever gets a warning, never mind a fine. Obviously far less dangerous than doing 110kmh

[steve_t]

Today, "sorry, we haven't anyone in the area, we'll try and get someone out in the next hour or two. Thanks for calling to report this"

Last time I managed to get another driver and we put the 2 cows into the closest field that had a gate.

Time before that, policeman said "yeah, they get out on that road a lot. I'll phone some of the houses on that road to see if they can move them".


Obviously nobody ever gets a warning, never mind a fine. Obviously far less dangerous than doing 110kmh

I guess they'd consider it low priority. You'd have to have a biker die in a collision with a cow before it would get media attention and then maybe something would be done about it. Hi viz vests for cows?
When my house got burgled, the cops came around 3 days later! I guess it's low priority with the burglars already having hightailed it out of there but still...

[hayd3n]

I guess they'd consider it low priority. You'd have to have a biker die in a collision with a cow before it would get media attention and then maybe something would be done about it. Hi viz vests for cows?
When my house got burgled, the cops came around 3 days later! I guess it's low priority with the burglars already having hightailed it out of there but still...

by that time you could of been robbed again (happened to me) ended up being the druggie accros the road

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Put out a mail drop in the area We are looking for donations for our .....club BBQ. Just leave you're live stock wandering around the road and we will pick it up.

You could always heard it up the road to the next property. I'm sure the cow will be missed

[scracha]

You could always heard it up the road to the next property. I'm sure the cow will be missed

Done that in the past with assitance from another passing motorist. Literally just opened nearest gate and herded it in there. This time I couldn't get any of the locals to assist me. Arseholes.

[caseye]

Many farmers are far too lax about keeping their animals off the road. Knackered fences, broken gates and electric tape will not stop most animals.
Not for the first time this year (40 days in), I encountered a cow wandering about a 100K road today.
Not for the first time, after knocking on a couple of doors, I got a the "not our problem" type response .
Not for the first time, I rung the local cop shop and their lack of interest was staggering.


Now I've seen locals hospitalised and their cars written off by hitting calves so the results of encountering a full sized cow on a motorbike don't bear thinking about. I reckon for most kiwi motorcyclists, hitting livestock is far more likely than hitting cheesewire.


Shouldn't MAG be bleating about this? Campaigning for a ban on putting livestock behind an electric tape on 100 k roads would be a start.

scracha, yes MAG-NZ should be and would be, have you registered on our web site, joined us? given us the opportunity to follow this up, on YOUR Behalf?
If the answer to any of the above questions is YES then, well done and I make a firm promise that if this is brought to our attention it will be followed up to the enth degree.
If the answer is no then, quite franky my dear I don't give a damn.We are not mind readers. Last Moday evening myself and two other MAG-NZ (09) thats code for the Auckland Contingent of MAG-NZ were talking with a traffic engineer from the Waikato, BOP area.
She is concerned about this sort of thing too and wants our help to find out who the farmers are that consistently let their stock get out.
So come on, specifics please.
When? What day?
Where?Get the number off the nearest dairy farm gate, they know exactly where that is.
What time? Says it all by itself, good road conditions, bad road conditions, traffic light, heavy all this helps.
Who was involved, not involved, could have been involved.
By the way a sure fire method of getting any cockie to run to his neighbours stocks aid is to mention that it's in a fence and you have just the thing for putting it out of it's misery in the locked safe box in your car.
Come on, join up, get invloved, this is a serious issue and has killed motorcyclists and cage driver every year for eon's.

[slofox]

Today, "sorry, we haven't anyone in the area, we'll try and get someone out in the next hour or two. Thanks for calling to report this"

Last time I managed to get another driver and we put the 2 cows into the closest field that had a gate.

Time before that, policeman said "yeah, they get out on that road a lot. I'll phone some of the houses on that road to see if they can move them".


Obviously nobody ever gets a warning, never mind a fine. Obviously far less dangerous than doing 110kmh

Over New Year, in the Southern Hawkes Bay, the back roads were damn near choked with loose marauding sheep...I lost count of how many I saw. And they're fucking brainless too - they tend to race out in front of you as you appear round the corner...

Hit one on the SV once...bounced off - the sheep, I mean, not the bike. Bent the brake pedal double though...

[James Deuce]

Absolutely. My "accident" last year has made me quite militant about this to the point of pissing off relatives and their friends who are farmers. If I find wandering stock, I restrain it and ring the Police. That removes the opportunity for the farmer responsible to remove the ear tag off the animal before reporting the accident to the police, or in my case simply leaving me for dead on the side of the road and removing the ear tag from the animal. I was the fourth injury accident due to wandering stock on the same piece of road in 5 days. The poor cop from Eketahuna was unable to do anything about any of the "accidents" because none of the animals involved were identifiable (no ear tag) or able to be located post incident (gone to the works).

Most often the Police refuse to come out. So I hurl a sheep over the nearest fence, or lead a cow to a gate and send it through.

I don't get out much.

I've done this twice in the last year in the South Wairarapa. MAG won't have any luck dealing with it, because the lovely farmers are the powerhouse of our economy and can do no wrong. It's our fault for running into their lovely free range stock, because we're naughty motorcyclists and didn't have a hi-vis vest on to warn the colour blind stock that we were coming. Plus our loud pipes and terrible lifestyle mean we deserved it.

There's no real penalty for farmers, unless you get all the details right and often the results are so catastrophic that no effort is put into identifying the culprit because people at the accident scene are too busy keeping people alive, and telling them they're idiots for riding a dangerous motorcycle.

Always remember that people suck and their main goal is to make sure that they're OK at the expense of everybody else.

[monkeymcbean]

How irritating, beat if the farmers where getting a good price for sheep and cattle they would not want dollars on legs wandering around out there to get skittled.
Man I would feel like snipping the fence completely and letting all the culprits stock out if it was a on going problem.

[Shadows]

Absolutely. My "accident" last year has made me quite militant about this to the point of pissing off relatives and their friends who are farmers. If I find wandering stock, I restrain it and ring the Police. That removes the opportunity for the farmer responsible to remove the ear tag off the animal before reporting the accident to the police, or in my case simply leaving me for dead on the side of the road and removing the ear tag from the animal. I was the fourth injury accident due to wandering stock on the same piece of road in 5 days. The poor cop from Eketahuna was unable to do anything about any of the "accidents" because none of the animals involved were identifiable (no ear tag) or able to be located post incident (gone to the works).

Most often the Police refuse to come out. So I hurl a sheep over the nearest fence, or lead a cow to a gate and send it through.

I don't get out much.

I've done this twice in the last year in the South Wairarapa. MAG won't have any luck dealing with it, because the lovely farmers are the powerhouse of our economy and can do no wrong. It's our fault for running into their lovely free range stock, because we're naughty motorcyclists and didn't have a hi-vis vest on to warn the colour blind stock that we were coming. Plus our loud pipes and terrible lifestyle mean we deserved it.

There's no real penalty for farmers, unless you get all the details right and often the results are so catastrophic that no effort is put into identifying the culprit because people at the accident scene are too busy keeping people alive, and telling them they're idiots for riding a dangerous motorcycle.

Always remember that people suck and their main goal is to make sure that they're OK at the expense of everybody else.

So if a sheep or other beast is wandering on the road or on public land, is it therefore fair game provided one removes any ear tag that he might find?

Serious question.

[rwh]

Is it worth removing the ear tag yourself and handing it in at the police station?

Or even just photographing it?

Richard

[gammaguy]

Many farmers are far too lax about keeping their animals off the road. Knackered fences, broken gates and electric tape will not stop most animals.
Not for the first time this year (40 days in), I encountered a cow wandering about a 100K road today.
Not for the first time, after knocking on a couple of doors, I got a the "not our problem" type response .
Not for the first time, I rung the local cop shop and their lack of interest was staggering.


Now I've seen locals hospitalised and their cars written off by hitting calves so the results of encountering a full sized cow on a motorbike don't bear thinking about. I reckon for most kiwi motorcyclists, hitting livestock is far more likely than hitting cheesewire.


Shouldn't MAG be bleating about this? Campaigning for a ban on putting livestock behind an electric tape on 100 k roads would be a start.

shoot the bastard

bet the owner comes forward then

[James Deuce]

So if a sheep or other beast is wandering on the road or on public land, is it therefore fair game provided one removes any ear tag that he might find?

Serious question.

No, it's still someone's property.

Is it worth removing the ear tag yourself and handing it in at the police station?

Or even just photographing it?

Richard

If you're concious and mobile and your gear hasn't been destroyed in the accident, go for it, though I'm sure that there will be an appropriate charge from the Police for interfering with the ear tag, no matter who removes it.