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    Quote Originally Posted by martybabe View Post
    Yup, Jap bikes make huge sense which is why I'm trying to figure out why one would choose a Triumph in preference.
    I grew up with Jap bikes,and still brought a Triumph daytona 955i reason why....

    Is that as soon as I sat on it I felt as one with the bike, since I'm 120+kg and over 6 foot that was top of my list,and Triumph tick the boxes for my needs and have found that with others I have spoken too so satisfaction in Triumph which wasn't found in other bikes at the time...

    Yes.. Triumph has come along way from the days of old when it was often said that
    "when you ride a triumph its not a question of if you were going too get there it was a question of when"

    You still get the Diehard triumph guys that wont touch the hinckley triumph's,as they see triumph as being tainted by the japs

    then you get the generation that grew up with the older triumphs like the TSS,TSX,ROYALS,JUBILEES,TIGER'S AND HURRICANES and they see traces of them in the modern range of bonnies,scambers etc without the breakdowns.....

    then you get their offspring who know all about the old triumphs,and see the hinckley range more suited too there needs(dont wana upset the old guy with a Jappa) with the sports bike range catering too their boy racer needs.....

    The demise of the Meridian Triumphs was seen as sad but was Also a good thing for Mr Bloor and the New Triumph range, with the Motorcycle world watching and guessing what would be....They needed too give the world something different, not something the jap brands had already sold too the world .......Yes the prices were over the top at first,but I think they have it about right now

    So really you could say Triumph have seen that they need too supply a brand too the market place that would garantee bike sale's in 2 generations whilist getting the attention of a 3rd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Or what drugs you are on! It's about the most roomy bike there is and the point is you can drift it out of the corners with the torque it produces.. Whereas that B-king is unrideable if you art over about 6'3".

    Its like berley for big aussie basketball players.........

    You may be right with the drifting, I'm not brave enough to try it.
    But it was cramped mate - sorry. Especially compared to mine, I felt like I was perched on the bloody thing with my knees around my ears.

    I put my impressions about the RIII here.

    I was ultimately disappointed and all because of the riding position.


    As for the B-King, haven't ridden one yet so I may be disappointed again, BUT, you might be surprised how many people are actually under 6'3" in height.
    Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet

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    Quote Originally Posted by martybabe View Post
    The Hammers, Triumph, Jaguar, a cock a nee, you really is a Pom abroad eh .......
    I know mate, can you Adam and Eve it I only jumped on the oxo at Stratford to see me China and blimey geezer when I got off I was in Auckland!!!!!!! never was any good wiv a map eiver

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    Quote Originally Posted by martybabe View Post
    One thing that surprises me since I've been here though is the fierce, almost Harleyesque, allegiance and loyalty to the Triumph brand. A quick flick through these pages will find many an outraged Triumph owner fiercely defending the marque from the merest hint of criticism , justified or otherwise. A fanaticism long associated with some Harley owners, seems alive and well in the Trumpy community of NZ.!
    Fuggin immigrints with yer strange foreign ways.... You aint in the UK now matey - time to adopt the local fashions and go native or go back immigrintvilles where yer comes from......

    Back in the day Triumphs were the bad boys bikes - and some of em still like to think they are a bit bad and they want a triumph. Why not, its better than dressing up like a ghey pirate Lots of em just wouldnt buy a japanese or italian bike so ..... Why not...

    Personally I think all these new fangled Triumphs are rubbish mate - they look wierd and the cams are in the wrong place - in short, the REAL bikers stick with the old ways.... (Just kidding - seriously sleep deprived, just back from the TOMCC rally)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD345 View Post

    As for the B-King, haven't ridden one yet so I may be disappointed again, BUT, you might be surprised how many people are actually under 6'3" in height.
    Go to a sports venue now and it's surprising how many are over 6'3" too.

    They must have had your handle bars in a stupid position - or it was the Roadster - which raises the pegs for better cornering clearance. Otherwise, The R3 Cruiser and the Tourer are amongst the most comfortable big-man machines on the market. Better than the Gold Wing, Ultra and I find them more roomy than the Vision (for example) where the non-adjustable handlebars pull too far back for long arms. Same with the FJR1300 and Concours 1400.

    M109 and C109 are the next best in the cruiser class.

    The main advantage of the R3 is it will smoke every other cruiser under 100k, but then 'performance cruisers' is a rather 'esoteric' domain hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    the REAL bikers stick with the old ways.... (Just kidding - seriously sleep deprived, just back from the TOMCC rally)
    Like this guy on the saint

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    Could be a former ghost rider

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsnbikes View Post
    Like this guy on the saint

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    Could be a former ghost rider
    Hes the real deal mate - mad as a box of frogs and a wild as a night in a P lab with a latex clad lady dwarfand a jar of demented gerbils. Rode the long way to the rally with the moderns, 20km dirt road and when he gets there he dont need no stinkin tent... Yup! Slept out under the stars in his bedroll... fark!

    He won 'Peoples Choice' at the bike show eh and it was a very popular choice too by all accounts. Bloody brill to see a bit of triumph 'History' being preserved instead of all the perfect restorations (nothing wrong with that - just nice to see the other angle)

    I'm an utter pussy - Vicki followed me up in the wagon with the tents n all and we went the short way (In my defence this tendon thing is as sore as fuck so whatever). Anyway - we took out 'Best Meriden twin' with the TR6C. Hilarious fun and while it was a PIA we managed the modified diet thing OK and still had a great time...

    Did we catch up mr Dogs? I met sooooooo many people and I'm shit with names plus the sleep deprivation from that dude with the shite singing and guitar at 4am was a bit of a special 'test'... Pissed down going through Levin FFS....

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    My take on it is simple. If you want high horsepower, predictible handling, racing type performance in a reliable package, you go japanese sport bike. If you want a bit of "feeling" to your ride, you look at Ducatis, Triumphs,Aprillias, MV Augustas and Buells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    My take on it is simple. If you want high horsepower, predictible handling, racing type performance in a reliable package, you go japanese sport bike. If you want a bit of "feeling" to your ride, you look at Ducatis, Triumphs,Aprillias, MV Augustas and Buells.
    The ape will let you have both - seems to be up there with the jap bikes in wsbk.
    Ciao Marco

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Did we catch up mr Dogs? I met sooooooo many people and I'm shit with names plus the sleep deprivation from that dude with the shite singing and guitar at 4am was a bit of a special 'test'... Pissed down going through Levin FFS....
    Yeah we did catch up on friday, when I brought the photographer around and pointed out the mascot you have on your mirror arm too him,

    Now wasn't that Donald who did the singing,lucky he wasn't called duck as the Mrs certainly wanted too shove that guitar up his arse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Fuggin immigrints with yer strange foreign ways.... You aint in the UK now matey - time to adopt the local fashions and go native or go back immigrintvilles where yer comes from......
    It's the British Invasion mate, music, Bikes and Pom's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Fuggin immigrints with yer strange foreign ways.... You aint in the UK now matey - time to adopt the local fashions and go native or go back immigrintvilles where yer comes from......

    Back in the day Triumphs were the bad boys bikes - and some of em still like to think they are a bit bad and they want a triumph. Why not, its better than dressing up like a ghey pirate Lots of em just wouldnt buy a japanese or italian bike so ..... Why not...

    Personally I think all these new fangled Triumphs are rubbish mate - they look wierd and the cams are in the wrong place - in short, the REAL bikers stick with the old ways.... (Just kidding - seriously sleep deprived, just back from the TOMCC rally)
    Nz always did have deep seated self confidence issues .....

    Stephen
    who remembers fitting such bent handlebars to triumphs , ( they were all trying to make them as tall as possible )

    when I first started in the garage .....
    "Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsnbikes View Post


    Yeah we did catch up on friday, when I brought the photographer around and pointed out the mascot you have on your mirror arm too him,

    Now wasn't that Donald who did the singing,lucky he wasn't called duck as the Mrs certainly wanted too shove that guitar up his arse
    D'oh! Dats right... Sorry, Shit I was blinking around that whole weekend - I swear to god I got less sleep than any rally I've ever been too...... We had an epic airbed failure - the ribs detatched inside so it ended up as all pillow and no bed - horrible to sleep on, perhaps storing it in the ceiling wasnt such a great idea....

    Yup, Mr 'donald' was a real PIA. Vicki wasnt happy either - but IMHO there is very little point in discussing these things with drunks at 4am, you just end up even more awake still and they shuffle off and sleep like babies....

    I really like the band on friday night but I'm still knackered - perhaps if I didnt drink so much in the sun then I'd feel better now eh... (nah)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    Nz always did have deep seated self confidence issues .....

    Stephen
    who remembers fitting such bent handlebars to triumphs , ( they were all trying to make them as tall as possible )

    when I first started in the garage .....
    Dude - a lack of self confidence is not usually an issue if you can ride one of those bikes with bars like that....

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    I didn't know anyone with a Triumph when I was a kid and when I first started to look at bikes my world was awash with Japanese machinery and a few guzzis/Laverdas/beemers.
    Hardly any British stuff in my neck of the woods which is odd really as my city (Birmingham) and local area was home to many British Bike factories at one time.( BSA Birmingham small arms) Norton, Triumph etc. Arguably the center of the British bike industry yet we embraced the Jap invasion with open arms ?

    So yeah, the heritage and Father son Loyalty just kind of passed me by, I remember a few die hards on Commandos and rocket threes, gold stars etc but by and Large, the japs ruled the roads by the early mid seventies.

    Well it's been great talking bikes with yawl for a change, Better than slagging each other off over and over and I certainly understand the lure of the Trumpy much more than I did. Not a convert yet but I will certainly have a more serious looksee when it becomes time for a change. Honestly, they have never been on my radar, always dismissed as rather dull uninspiring things, then again I thought that about Beemers, boy was I wrong, never to old to learn I guess.

    Cheers everyone, enjoy your ride whatever the name on the tank
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