Not only can't they corner

[cheshirecat]

Was it a follow the salesman ride? I heard that CWB rides like a girl anyway.

Build quality - Not with you on that one.

Admittedly I get press bikes - but often they don't get as thorough a PDI as customer's bikes, but Honda has no advantage on the bikes I've had, and that's a compliment to Honda.

A few couple of times I managed to escape - I was refering to my own 'onda re build quality which seems to be displaying less wear and tear than bikes half it's age.
Mind you it gets liberal quantities of Bell 6 in 1 at great expense.

[Conquiztador]

I'm not convinced bike #2 lays it down. as I see it he just jumps off. and for no good reason either as there appears to be plenty of good road to steer around. Bike #3 manages this and he's not too far behind

I buy that. I did not try to excuse his actions. He could easily have gone past. My point was; if you are gonna lay down the bike, hold on to the fucker!

[Big Dave]

Just a quick question Big Dave.

Is some of the HD's poor handling reputation been built up from the customisation many bikes go through at the hands of their owners, especially as its mostly form over function, or is it just horses for courses and New Zealands courses aren't ideal for that particular horse?

Hmmm - I'd certainly attribute the unreliability thing to bolt on horsepower and buying from the S&S catalogue one component at a time. Keep 'em pretty stock and they will go as long as most.

And yeah - raking them out and changing the trail reduces the cornering geometry even more. It's a pretty broad brush to generalise though. A Fat Boy isn't the best choice for SH22, but it's pretty phat riding around town and cruising SH1 without stressing on the blue and reds. Everyone has different ideals. XR1200X tips in pretty good. The FXDX was a very nice steerer.

But I really liked the Super Glide and its road manners. It can do the 70kph posted corners at 100 and the 60s at 95 if asked, and I enjoyed doing it. In fact I liked the way it handled. Getting a cheek off the saddle tickled my happy spot a lot.

[KiWiP]

My point was; if you are gonna lay down the bike, hold on to the fucker!

True

Also applies to wild women, angry dogs and buttered bull sharks...

[robo555]

A perfect example of why Hardley riders don't wave. Look what happens when they try.

[Brian d marge]

Was it a follow the salesman ride? I heard that CWB rides like a girl anyway.

Build quality - Not with you on that one.

Admittedly I get press bikes - but often they don't get as thorough a PDI as customer's bikes, but Honda has no advantage on the bikes I've had, and that's a compliment to Honda.

I have done a couple of press bike for Honda back in the day ,,,they were given the royal treatment ,,,

Chiswick , used to really go over them before release ,,,

Times may have changed though ,,,,,

Stephen

delicate and refined are two words I am struggling to use when thinking about American Engineering

[Jdogg]

Done Deal's Gap yet my friend? once you have, then come back and roll out your barrel

What, like this you mean???

[skippa1]

Haha......no gloves.......

[Kickaha]

My point was; if you are gonna lay down the bike, hold on to the fucker!

Dumb idea

Best thing to do is get clear of it

[KiWiP]

hold on to the fucker!

Best thing to do is get clear of it

Now the analogy with a quality but dangerous woman is clear. So I feel qualified to state that the correct course of action is to hurl yourself underneath her and hope for the best. You may come out of it destroyed but while the slim chance of a future quality ride remains it will ultimately be the right decision.

[porky]

Not the bike.... it managed to right itself and hold a pretty good line once it ditched the rider....

As has been said that second guy didnt lay that bike down... i recon he clipped the rider in front.. following to close ????

[steve_t]

Haha......no gloves.......

At least the guy had a helmet, albeit an open face one. As the bike hits him and mashes his face into the road, I'll bet he was wishing he had a full face. Aren't helmets optional in America? Or is that just state by state?

[scumdog]

At least the guy had a helmet, albeit an open face one. As the bike hits him and mashes his face into the road, I'll bet he was wishing he had a full face. Aren't helmets optional in America? Or is that just state by state?

And the guy wearing the full-face helmet about to hit the back of a truck probably wishes he was driving a car... and the guy in his Mini ploughing into the Land-cruiser probably wishes he was driving a Hino truck..where do you stop??

And helmet laws vary from state-to-state - and take it from me, if you arse-off on the interstate the fact you have no helmet/open-face/full face whatever will have a slim bearing on your survival, by the time 15 cars/truck travelling in the same direction barrel over your body you won't care...

[scumdog]

but straight lines give them problems

Harleys

sorry to HD owners but it is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Hmm..there's a barrel full of fish for any motorbike type you can think of........

[steve_t]

And the guy wearing the full-face helmet about to hit the back of a truck probably wishes he was driving a car... and the guy in his Mini ploughing into the Land-cruiser probably wishes he was driving a Hino truck..where do you stop??

And helmet laws vary from state-to-state - and take it from me, if you arse-off on the interstate the fact you have no helmet/open-face/full face whatever will have a slim bearing on your survival, by the time 15 cars/truck travelling in the same direction barrel over your body you won't care...

LOL. Why do you need to extrapolate to an unrelated scenario? All I was saying is in this particular instance a full face helmet would have saved this guy from scraping his face on the ground.
Yes I agree that if 15 cars/trucks run you over that it doesn't matter what type of helmet you're wearing. Take it from you? Did you get run over on the interstate?
So, are you saying that you don't think helmets are effective pieces of safety equipment?

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