Who is sick of all the Waitangi bullshit?

[Indiana_Jones]

Aren't they called the Silver Ferns ?

If you move your eyes just a little higher.... lol

-Indy

[BoristheBiter]

Sorry I didn't explain further.

Just the idea...creating a 'white only' team would divide New Zealand in two. That's giving New Zealand a choice White or Maori a fence between us and I dread this to ever happen because I love Pakeha and my Pakeha team mates. This would totally degrade New Zealand's potential in sport because we all work so well together, we are the perfect combination.

Just the idea...

On a similar note alot of us young Maori are stepping up the game in Education. Last year at my college alot of Maori recieved Sport Scholarships and awards including myself along with Excellence awards.

This is the main problem. Most people i know don't care if there is a Maori team, like i said i like a good game of footy, we don't care if it is race based, it is not dividing the country.
Now install a nz white team and hear the cries of racism from the Maori side.
Why??
I don't really know, maybe we have a higher self esteem, maybe we are happy to watch a game of footy with anyone, maybe Maori think they deserve the right to be racist, maybe most don't give a shit, but the only devision would come from the Maori side and that has been proven time and time again.

In most country's the white power crap is not given the light of day as we see it for what its worth and if it does come up it is ridiculed for the crap it is, just look at the reply's to SmokeU, can the same be said for Maori? I think yes in the most part but there is still a lot that sit back and just try trolling to get their faces in the spotlight, Hone is the best example. Now hear anything long enough and it will become the truth.

I say good on you for receiving Scholarships and awards but that just sounds like colonial patronization, of course you can achieve anything you put your mind to and the only thing holding you back is yourself, but if you have no role models or the only ones you see blame it all on somebody else what else would you do?

Your leaders have Maori so far stuck it the welfare trap and are quite happy to see you stay there as if you got on and succeeded it would prove them wrong and they would have to find some other BS to rant on about.
And how small does it make your people feel when your leaders say the only way you can succeeded is if you get more hand outs?

[imdying]

The official stuff is a minor problem; there's is no concern about Maori rugby teams...w e still have them by the nuts in any case. We don't hire Maoris. We don't befriend Maoris. We don't walk on the same side of the road as them. We ensure they live grouped together in lower class areas. We shop in supermarkets they can't afford. A racist national rugby team they might have, but where it counts, the Maori have nothing.

[avgas]

At least that way National won't be able to sell it all to foreigners and foreign corporations

I suggest you google where the Maori's are selling it......

[SMOKEU]

In most country's the white power crap is not given the light of day as we see it for what its worth and if it does come up it is ridiculed for the crap it is,

Check out Stormfront then.

[avgas]

If white stig fought black stig who would win?

[Delerium]

If white stig fought black stig who would win?

Neither, they would combine like captain planet and form chessboard stig.

[BoristheBiter]

Check out Stormfront then.

Why? just a bunch of redneck hillbilly whiteys thinking they are better because of their skin colour.

Wouldn't waste my bandwidth.

[SMOKEU]

If white stig fought black stig who would win?

White stig!

[R-Soul]

Once you give blacks power over a country, then they WILL phuck it up. Look what happened when the blacks came to power in South Africa.

What happened was that the ANC government presided over the longest period of economic prosperity in 30 years. Of course, it had a lot to do with the removal of economic boycotts too.

And at the same time the pucblic heath system and police seems to have gone downwards. Although some will say that they weren't particularly good to start off with (at least not for the blacks). Some way it is just an evening out of teh services, spreading the service over the entire population. Who knows?

[steve_t]

I see Hone Harawira just got the axe from the Maori Party

[admenk]

I see Hone Harawira just got the axe from the Maori Party

My heart bleeds for him

[R-Soul]

Aaah. But it is the blacks doing it. Which makes your assertion irrelevant.

They have not "phucked" up all of the countries they have presided over. Generally only those ones where European colonial powers have left on a hurry when the reviolution came after years of oppression and treating the blacks like second class citizens in their own countries- leaving a power vacuum (eg Mozambique, Angola, Algeria, Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda, Zambia, DR Congo (ex Zaire), ) or those ones where blacks have had to battle (literally in civil wars) for years with European and white oppressors (Zimbabwe), leaving a power vacuum afterwards.


The rest have been pretty peaceful. Tanzania, Kenya, Botswana, Malawi, Madagascar, etc.

Maybe not as corruption free as some would like. But then again, neither are a lot of South American countries.

[R-Soul]

And yes, R-soul, I can see how New Zealand would be the promised land. With the opinions you hold there will be career opportunities aplenty. Especiall with the govt. Nothing like toeing the Party line, a?

Its called empathy, and having the imagination to imagine yourself into another persons situation. If more people had it, there'd be less phuckups in the first place.

You should try it sometime.

[R-Soul]

This is the main problem. Most people i know don't care if there is a Maori team, like i said i like a good game of footy, we don't care if it is race based, it is not dividing the country.
Now install a nz white team and hear the cries of racism from the Maori side.
Why??
I don't really know, maybe we have a higher self esteem, maybe we are happy to watch a game of footy with anyone, maybe Maori think they deserve the right to be racist, maybe most don't give a shit, but the only devision would come from the Maori side and that has been proven time and time again.

In most country's the white power crap is not given the light of day as we see it for what its worth and if it does come up it is ridiculed for the crap it is, just look at the reply's to SmokeU, can the same be said for Maori? I think yes in the most part but there is still a lot that sit back and just try trolling to get their faces in the spotlight, Hone is the best example. Now hear anything long enough and it will become the truth.

I say good on you for receiving Scholarships and awards but that just sounds like colonial patronization, of course you can achieve anything you put your mind to and the only thing holding you back is yourself, but if you have no role models or the only ones you see blame it all on somebody else what else would you do?

Your leaders have Maori so far stuck it the welfare trap and are quite happy to see you stay there as if you got on and succeeded it would prove them wrong and they would have to find some other BS to rant on about.
And how small does it make your people feel when your leaders say the only way you can succeeded is if you get more hand outs?

When you thnk about it- it SUITS Maori leaders to have their people stuck in the welfare traps, and struggling, and as uneducated as possible. That way, when they tell these people that its all about the money, and deflect teh reasons for their predicament onto the white opppressors, they dont know any better, and put their faith (and their votes) in their "leaders" to get them out of it by claiming more handouts. The leaders know that the handouts wont make a jot of difference (if it actually gets to their people anyway) because money wont fix it.

If the Maori people had the same attitude as the rest of society (on average), they would not feel the need (or the sense) to vote for a party based on their ethnicity - more to vote for parties based on their economic programs and tax proposals. Those Maori leaders would lose their influence and payouts and government expense accounts.

I dont see Asians voting for Asian parties, or Saffas voting for Saffa parties. Because everybody is different within those people. No one party can represent them.

But by keeping many Maori people in the poverty trap, they can colllectively have "Maori issues". What bullshit - what they have is leadership issues.