Tournament parking now charging monthly for bikes from 23 Feb 2011

**Squiggles** · 22nd February 2011, 14:54

Went for a tiki tour of 3 of the Tournament parks nearby.

The terms displayed for casual parking (one place didn't even have these) define a vehicle as

25.1.6. “Vehicle” means a passenger car in the ordinary sense of the word, and includes a station wagon, van, ute or four wheel drive vehicle, and includes any accessories or contents of such a motor vehicle. The term does not include a light or heavy truck, a trailer or a caravan.

They can choose to lose my custom when i do drive into the city, but what annoys me is that at two of the parks the employees told me Bikes are free for casual parking (the other said the same rate as cars).
Given they plan to start enforcement tomorrow this is sure to lead to alot of unneccessary bs. It would be much easier if they just put up a couple of placards saying "Motorcycles MUST take a ticket", just as the city council has signage instructing riders not to take a ticket in its buildings. Will they... probably not.

**rainman** · 22nd February 2011, 17:18

Tournament are scumbags.

**Jizah** · 23rd February 2011, 13:25

Originally Posted by Squiggles

They have no interest in putting up signage to alert casual parkers to the change (& difference to other parking buildings) instead you'll be slapped with a $45? fee for non compliance.

Is it true that these tickets aren't actually enforceable? Or something along those lines.

**Mully** · 23rd February 2011, 18:58

Originally Posted by Jizah

Is it true that these tickets aren't actually enforceable? Or something along those lines.

That's what I'd like to know - seems to me that can't be, unless they bully you into paying.

Of course, OP, you could just ride in, take a ticket from the machine and ride around the barriers on the way out. Just to fuck with them.

**Sam I Am** · 23rd February 2011, 20:05

continuation of thread >http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-from-TOMORROW

Quoted from Squiggle's
"You can park there at the discounted rate of $50/month or $75/month across multiple carpark buildings and the space allocated will be a motorcycle spot, casual parking will be charged at the same rate as for a car but it is a per vehicle charge not per park and you're welcome to take a car place.
They have no interest in putting up signage to alert casual parkers to the change (& difference to other parking buildings) instead you'll be slapped with a $45? fee for non compliance. They have no interest in giving first time offenders a warning, instead they're quite happy to hit you in the wallet you've been "getting away without paying for long enough"."

**Squiggles** · 23rd February 2011, 21:10

Originally Posted by Jizah

Is it true that these tickets aren't actually enforceable? Or something along those lines.

They'll probably be clamping vehicles, can't fine you iirc (well they can "fine" you the cost of the parking). Clamping I think they can but shouldn't as their T&C for parking only cover passenger cars at the moment...

Will have to have a followup call tomorrow, manager there didnt want to talk to me again yesterday. Tbh the impression i've gotten so far is that they'd be happier to catch people out than let them willingly pay to park there.

**Usarka** · 24th February 2011, 08:27

Originally Posted by Squiggles

They'll probably be clamping vehicles, can't fine you iirc (well they can "fine" you the cost of the parking). Clamping I think they can but shouldn't as their T&C for parking only cover passenger cars at the moment...

They'd probably respond to that argument by saying if you're vehicle isn't in the T's&C's then you shouldn't be parking there and we have every right to clamp or fine you yada yada wank wank etc.

**Sam I Am** · 24th February 2011, 08:35

come on guys please vote

**The Pastor** · 24th February 2011, 08:57

only retards would park with a company so arrogant and corrupt as tournament.

**Max Preload** · 24th February 2011, 09:22

Originally Posted by Jizah

Is it true that these tickets aren't actually enforceable? Or something along those lines.

Correct. But they can remove the vehicle as it is private property. If they clamp it you're entitled to have the clamp removed and if they won't, you can remove it yourself. In theory, the vehicle should be released to you immediately on your taking possession of it, making clamping or towing completely pointless, but they'll do everything they can to avoid doing that unless you pay some exorbitant fee. Don't do it.

They take possession of your vehicle under the principle of "distress damage feasant" and are entitled only to consideration for any actual loss resulting from your action of parking there. Arguably, that's little more than the parking fee itself and perhaps a nominal administration charge for their trouble. if they tow it, then a fair charge for the towage. But you'll hear of private operators charges $200+ for that while a Council tow for parking where you're not supposed to is much more modest.

It's time the law was tightened up around these rogues to stop them making people think they can fine them. They can't. Only the court can fine you and only a government authority can issue you with an infringement offence notice.

**buellbabe** · 24th February 2011, 11:15

Yay for Wilsons !!!

I used to work in the Viaduct and always parked my bike in the Wilsons Parking Building next to the tepid baths...

Plenty of deadspace for bike parking

hotgsxr750 · 24th February 2011, 11:17

50 is cheap for one months safe parking sounds like you people need jobs

**Jizah** · 24th February 2011, 11:24

Originally Posted by hotgsxr750

50 is cheap for one months safe parking sounds like you people need jobs

Free is cheaper.

**f4ctry** · 24th February 2011, 11:32

So let me get this right. You complaining you have to pay to park in a building that someone else owns....

Isnt that like going up the sky tower and saying you dont want to pay as you ownly want to look out 1 window?

Ther are offering a service, its up to you wether you use it...freeloader

**Usarka** · 24th February 2011, 12:06

Originally Posted by f4ctry

So let me get this right. You complaining you have to pay to park in a building that someone else owns....

Isnt that like going up the sky tower and saying you dont want to pay as you ownly want to look out 1 window?

Ther are offering a service, its up to you wether you use it...freeloader

How about - they've been letting bikes park there without charge for ever, now they are suddenly going to start fining people from today without any warning.

Legal? maybe Ethical? No.