High visibility or highly overrated? Information flyer

[GOONR]

I dont wear high viz during the day, only when its dark or misty or whatever, but I make sure that its clean and the reflective strips are clean. No point wearing day glo vests without the strips so these poor quality free high viz vests can fuck off as far as I am concerned.

And then you go ahead and wear the right gear, jacket, boots, trousers, gloves and lid, just like I was wearing when I was bowled by that lady a year ago. She was found to be at fault, was prosecuted and all that that. But the bastard fuckface wanking insurance companies wont pay out on the gear, the gear that I wear as part of my personal responsibility as a rider.

I can see these corporate pig insurance firms jumping on the high viz bandwagon and not paying out unless you were wearing one. These companies need to recognise protective equipment for what it is....and pay out 100%...

....as my brother said after my crash..."what do you mean she didnt see you, how could she not see you, I mean you being such a fat c**t and all that...."

Mate, you are clearly visible.

[Blackflagged]

Lot of pedestrians get hit by cars, maybe all pedestrians should were high Viz jackets
and there pets,& fisherman.

High Viz Jackets don`t seem to help cyclist much though.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10626761

[davebullet]

I can see these corporate pig insurance firms jumping on the high viz bandwagon and not paying out unless you were wearing one. These companies need to recognise protective equipment for what it is....and pay out 100%..."

If your motorcycle and contents insurance is with the same underwriter (insurance company) then you are usually covered by one or other policy. In otherwords, there can be no finger pointing as it comes back to the same insurance company.

HEnce why it pays to ask your broker to get you the best package deal with one insurer. House vs. contents insurance (eg. house insurance covers your water cylinder because it is fixed), contents is usually carpet (because technically it is removable).

All I'm saying is use the one company to minimise the "you're not covered risk"

[swbarnett]

The licensing system is too slack / easy to obtain. Even if you tightened up so that only clued up riders could ride, even good people have off days (lack of concentration). People will make mistakes.

Yes, but a clued up rider will make fewer mistakes than others and any lack of gear will be less of an issue.

[Owl]

But the bastard fuckface wanking insurance companies wont pay out on the gear, the gear that I wear as part of my personal responsibility as a rider.

Time to review your insurance then Max? Many include gear in their motorcycle policies, whether that be indemnity or replacement.

[miloking]

And the only way to fight it is for a large percentage of motorcyclists to refuse to wear them. I will be among the first to join this disobediant group.

It wont be that easy with $400 fine and 35 demerits slapped on your licence...for any such disobedience...

Could be worse tho we could be all living in Libya....

[Eyegasm]

I'd wear a high vis... only after it has been dyed black!!!

[Maha]

I'd wear a high vis... only after it has been dyed black!!!

You do know there are black reflector vest avaliable eh?
Not hi-viz for obvious reasons so I dont really see the point.

[swbarnett]

It wont be that easy with $400 fine and 35 demerits slapped on your licence...for any such disobedience...

So when do we make a stand against the nanny state that is determined to take away ALL our right one at a time?

[Usarka]

You do know there are black reflector vest avaliable eh?
Not hi-viz for obvious reasons so I dont really see the point.

A black reflective vest probably is high vis during sunstrike hours.

Black will stand out against the glare for people looking into the sun, and the reflective bit will stand out for people with the sun behind them.

[oneofsix]

A black reflective vest probably is high vis during sunstrike hours.

Black will stand out against the glare for people looking into the sun, and the reflective bit will stand out for people with the sun behind them.

Good I will stick with my Black bike jacket with its 3M reflective strips
Or do I need to get one of those vest things so it can act as a wind sock? Is the point of the hi-vis vest having the vest?

[Drew]

And then you go ahead and wear the right gear, jacket, boots, trousers, gloves and lid, just like I was wearing when I was bowled by that lady a year ago. She was found to be at fault, was prosecuted and all that that. But the bastard fuckface wanking insurance companies wont pay out on the gear, the gear that I wear as part of my personal responsibility as a rider.

Your contents insurance should though.

[Usarka]

Your contents insurance should though.

Shouldn't the other persons insurance pay for what they wreck?

[Drew]

Shouldn't the other persons insurance pay for what they wreck?

What should and does happen, are very different things.

When ACC stopped shelling out on safety gear, house and contents insurance providers took up the cause. Give yours a call and see what the guts is, most of them will only pay a percentage of gear less than two years old. If you get in touch with them with prices and get a shop to certify that the gear is in good condition I doubt you'll have any trouble insuring older gear than that though.