Low road toll

[StoneY]

Interesting thread....from breakdowns of quaterly stats, this quater is always the quietest.

Im of the opinion, wait till Winter is over and all the long weekends prior to the Christmas break are done..... and then analyse numbers

[ducatilover]

One made out of dead cow?

Mine is, 1.3-1.4mm of dead cow to be exact.

[BoristheBiter]

Look at it this way. If fuel was $10 a litre would you see a reduction in the number of journeys taken in cars? If your answer is yes then fuel price does have a bearing on road use. Now $10 is an extreme, but it proves the point, as everyone has their own threshold.

But its not $10 a litre, so until it is then its not a factor. also the petrol has only gone recently so over the quarter not many people would have really worried about the gas price so it can be taken out completely, IMHO.

[onearmedbandit]

But its not $10 a litre, so until it is then its not a factor. also the petrol has only gone recently so over the quarter not many people would have really worried about the gas price so it can be taken out completely, IMHO.

At first I thought you couldn't read, then I thought you could, now you've just confirmed my initial suspicions...

Oh and I'll be sure to tell those people that have told me they are taking less unnecessary trips due to the cost of petrol the you say they are wrong.

[oneofsix]

But its not $10 a litre, so until it is then its not a factor. also the petrol has only gone recently so over the quarter not many people would have really worried about the gas price so it can be taken out completely, IMHO.

You mean there has been another round of rises recently. The price of petrol rose to heights that shocked people last year. Christmas had a drop in road toll as well. Now you are also seeing people suffering the effects of the recession.

[Subike]

Maybe its due to us here in Christchurch having to drive on roads that are barley drivable,
or due to the central city being closed, thus less traffic in areas that were accident prone,
or that so many cars are still stuck in carparks etc, that are owned by those who could afford to travel every weekend.
Remove the spendable incomes of 300000 people, who are now stuck at home digging out the long drops,
fixing lives that are full of cracks,
dont go for drives anymore for anything other than essentual things....
could be.....

[BoristheBiter]

At first I thought you couldn't read, then I thought you could, now you've just confirmed my initial suspicions...

Oh and I'll be sure to tell those people that have told me they are taking less unnecessary trips due to the cost of petrol the you say they are wrong.

O go ahead, and tell them you can't read as well, as i never said that people weren't cutting back on trips, i was saying it isn't a factor in the road toll as there are still just as many cars on the roads.

[onearmedbandit]

O go ahead, and tell them you can't read as well, as i never said that people weren't cutting back on trips, i was saying it isn't a factor in the road toll as there are still just as many cars on the roads.

Amazing, you manage to contradict yourself within one sentence, very impressive. You say you don't argue that people are cutting back on trips (ie not using their car as much -ergo they are not on the roads - ergo less cars on the road) yet you state there are just as many cars on the roads...

Explain that to me Paul Daniels.

[Smifffy]

I just burned up a tank and a half of gas on a joyride.

Luvverly.

[BoristheBiter]

Amazing, you manage to contradict yourself within one sentence, very impressive. You say you don't argue that people are cutting back on trips (ie not using their car as much -ergo they are not on the roads - ergo less cars on the road) yet you state there are just as many cars on the roads...

Explain that to me Paul Daniels.

Maybe if you read it again you might understand but i won't hold my breath.

[Usarka]

Amazing, you manage to contradict yourself within one sentence, very impressive. You say you don't argue that people are cutting back on trips (ie not using their car as much -ergo they are not on the roads - ergo less cars on the road) yet you state there are just as many cars on the roads...

Explain that to me Paul Daniels.

They're parked on the roads?

[red mermaid]

Does it really matter because where is the evidence that people are taking less trips due to the price petrol?

Yes, I know KB does not deal in evidence and facts!

But to be a valid point actual traffic number counts would have to be used, plus litres of petrol sold,etc.

[Bytor]

Congratulations, you've worked out that people won't stop driving to get to work, that people will pay a bit extra to avoid public transport and car pooling. You've also worked out that people during working hours still need to get around.

Now lets move out of the city (you know, where the majority of fatal road accidents occur) and into the evenings and weekends. Ah what is happening here? Oh, less people are making unnecessary trips in the car. Bored at home? Go for a drive to the lake? Nah fuck it I'll do the lawns/wash the dog/walk down to the local park. What's this? Less people on the roads? Does this possibly mean there will be less fatalities? Surely I jest.

Also bear in mind that the 'period' was the holiday season - less people going on holiday coz they can't afford it + less overseas tourists on the road coz they can't afford it either = less accidents and road deaths, or is that too logical?

[onearmedbandit]

Maybe if you read it again you might understand but i won't hold my breath.

You say that you don't argue that people are cutting back on their trips, ie road usage. Ok so lets assume that there are say 10,000,000 trips in x year. So that means 10,000,000 instances of a vehicle being on the road (assuming a trip is both to and from). So lets take 200,000 away from that. Now we have 9,800,000 instances of a vehicle being on the road.

Can you see the fucking difference? I'll give you a hint, the answer is in my second to last sentence. There are less cars on the road. Less cars on the road, less chances of a fatality.

To those adding in that there are other factors, I'm not claiming this is the sole reason, or if there is actually any notable difference in the current fatality stats compared to other years or quaters. All I'm saying is petrol price has an affect on motorists habits.

[BoristheBiter]

You say that you don't argue that people are cutting back on their trips, ie road usage. Ok so lets assume that there are say 10,000,000 trips in x year. So that means 10,000,000 instances of a vehicle being on the road (assuming a trip is both to and from). So lets take 200,000 away from that. Now we have 9,800,000 instances of a vehicle being on the road.

Can you see the fucking difference? I'll give you a hint, the answer is in my second to last sentence. There are less cars on the road. Less cars on the road, less chances of a fatality.

To those adding in that there are other factors, I'm not claiming this is the sole reason, or if there is actually any notable difference in the current fatality stats compared to other years or quaters. All I'm saying is petrol price has an affect on motorists habits.

See now you are just making shit up.
first you say a few friends don't use their cars as much now its in the 100k.

What i said was, NOW PAY ATTENTION, there might be a few people that have stopped using their vehicles due to the fuel price but it has made no difference on the road as the traffic is still the same, so therefore it is such a small number that this can not be really considered when looking at the cause of the crash stats coming down and if you look at the Auckland region it is still the same as last year.

Do you have that now or should i get the crayons out?