Punishment fit the crime?

**Taz** · 2nd April 2011, 22:06

Why'd you stop? Oh, Rocket 111, corners coming up were they?

**scumdog** · 2nd April 2011, 22:09

Originally Posted by Taz

Why'd you stop? Oh, Rocket 111, corners coming up were they?

Yeah, you never stop eh?

But you never have to do runners either eh....

**FJRider** · 2nd April 2011, 22:09

Originally Posted by Taz

Why'd you stop? Oh, Rocket 111, corners coming up were they?

With a cop close enough to get his number ... you figure it out ...

**bogan** · 2nd April 2011, 22:37

I agree with the sentiments, the punishment doesn't fit the crime, it can be safe to do those speeds, and a 6 month ban is purely deterrent, rather than rehabilitation. If i were one who sped, the only reason I would cap it to about 150 indicated is the loss of license is a bloody big deterrent! The laws seem to be dumbed down to be very black and white to make it fair for all, in their eyes doing 150+ on a safe road is the same as doing 150+ on one with blind corners etc.

Makes it a bastard to tune bikes I'm finding too, how are you supposed to hold it WFO to select a good main jet when you're breaking the speed limit while still in second gear?

**Flip** · 2nd April 2011, 22:56

More whining here than a British Airways 747 full of poms.

Take a man pill and HARDEN THE FUCK UP!

**jafar** · 2nd April 2011, 23:01

Originally Posted by malfunconz

its just eating at me ... 6 months off road for dangerous speed of 181 kmph on empty road ,middle of no where , nice guy , but the cop must have been doin over 200 easy to catch up , likely nudged 220 ... sure thats safe as ....I pulled over instantly i realised he was behind me ( hey i just got carried away with the moment ... as ya do ) . But what really eats me is the thousands of defensively driven , safe , courteous miles riden at the speed limit count for nothing ( sure i do speed too , not an angel). A month off road would have done the trick as a lesson , not penalised my family cartin me round for 180 days . . This aint a whinge just a little realisation , i pleaded no contest and never rode/drove the entire time . But now i am back on it and well see no point in the length of disqualification . I thought after the hearing that some public service and defensive or advanced riding course would have been far more beneficial .... not to be , not even given the option . Sooooo this is the crux of the matter .... would it not be better to be given an option and actually get some thing outa it rather than sore knees from all the walking i ve done .

I kind of agree with you in some ways, a defensive driving course before you get your licence back perhaps? Or mabey dropping your licence back to a restricted for a while when you do get it back?
The other penalty you could have got was death or worse. Cars ,tractors or just shit on the road that you can't see @ that speed are a big deterrent for me anyway.

6 months was light for the speed quoted.

**malfunconz** · 3rd April 2011, 16:26

typical replys ,toughen up ...take ya medicine, bullshit , so easy to read some thing and not understand it .Naturally there has to be some back ground to the story .... not a whinge . Only one reply about the alternative types of sentence .... thats what it was all about . I did "suck it up"" , did the time ,any way whatever trevor!

The matter is what good does a disqualification serve . I could have stayed driving and no one would have known the difference . If i was given an order to attend a riding course ..... hey wouldnt that serve a better cause . rather than the usual KB smart arse negative crap use the thread to put out your own ideas .

Hey my own thought to have a reduction in disqualification for attendance at own cost to a rider/driver education course . Surely the end result is to raise awareness and acheive a more positive outcome . I will just sift though the dumb arse replys . Funny that the one guy who replyed to this thread that is a cop was .... well as usual for him ....way off the mark and negative .

**malfunconz** · 3rd April 2011, 16:31

Originally Posted by jafar

I kind of agree with you in some ways, a defensive driving course before you get your licence back perhaps? Or mabey dropping your licence back to a restricted for a while when you do get it back?
The other penalty you could have got was death or worse. Cars ,tractors or just shit on the road that you can't see @ that speed are a big deterrent for me anyway.

6 months was light for the speed quoted.

yeh i agree , this case you could just park up the bike and still use your car or van . Bloody weird you get busted on the bike and cant use car license either .

**scumdog** · 3rd April 2011, 16:35

Originally Posted by malfunconz

yeh i agree , this case you could just park up the bike and still use your car or van . Bloody weird you get busted on the bike and cant use car license either .

Yeah, get done for pissed driving in your car? - then you could use your bike.

Get caught pissed while riding that? - you could use...

Those law makers sure have a funny way of doing things...

**zeocen** · 3rd April 2011, 16:41

Are you going to continue riding at 180kmph on the road? If not, I'll say the punishment worked out pretty well for everyone.

**Stormer** · 3rd April 2011, 16:43

Originally Posted by malfunconz

its just eating at me ....

Dude, you have most certainly come to the wrong place if you want any sympathy or support in relation to a speeding offence.
You`ll get shot down every time by the "take it to the track / don`t speed / suck it up and pay it " crowd.
Like every time.
I guess speeding is a gamble...you win some, and you can most definately lose some.

**Owl** · 3rd April 2011, 16:46

Originally Posted by malfunconz

typical replys ,toughen up ...take ya medicine, bullshit , so easy to read some thing and not understand it .Naturally there has to be some back ground to the story .... not a whinge . Only one reply about the alternative types of sentence .... thats what it was all about . I did "suck it up"" , did the time ,any way whatever trevor!

The matter is what good does a disqualification serve . I could have stayed driving and no one would have known the difference . If i was given an order to attend a riding course ..... hey wouldnt that serve a better cause . rather than the usual KB smart arse negative crap use the thread to put out your own ideas .

Hey my own thought to have a reduction in disqualification for attendance at own cost to a rider/driver education course . Surely the end result is to raise awareness and acheive a more positive outcome . I will just sift though the dumb arse replys . Funny that the one guy who replyed to this thread that is a cop was .... well as usual for him ....way off the mark and negative .

Wow..........a whinge about the comments to a whinge.

You're going great!

**marty** · 3rd April 2011, 17:43

Originally Posted by malfunconz

typical replys ,toughen up ...take ya medicine, bullshit , so easy to read some thing and not understand it .Naturally there has to be some back ground to the story .... not a whinge . Only one reply about the alternative types of sentence .... thats what it was all about . I did "suck it up"" , did the time ,any way whatever trevor!

The matter is what good does a disqualification serve . I could have stayed driving and no one would have known the difference . If i was given an order to attend a riding course ..... hey wouldnt that serve a better cause . rather than the usual KB smart arse negative crap use the thread to put out your own ideas .

Hey my own thought to have a reduction in disqualification for attendance at own cost to a rider/driver education course . Surely the end result is to raise awareness and acheive a more positive outcome . I will just sift though the dumb arse replys . Funny that the one guy who replyed to this thread that is a cop was .... well as usual for him ....way off the mark and negative .

depends what you were charged with. 'Dangerous Speed' carries a mandatory 6 month disqual. you perhaps should have fought for a reduction to exceeds 100km/h, or careless driving - the sentence options available to the judge for those offences are much greater.

**wysper** · 3rd April 2011, 18:15

Originally Posted by malfunconz

Sooooo this is the crux of the matter .... would it not be better to be given an option and actually get some thing outa it rather than sore knees from all the walking i ve done .

Actually that is an interesting point.

(warning - up coming sweeping generalisations and personal opinion)

I guess one of the problems would be that the majority of lets say die hard speeders would only do it to reduce the length of their ban, and probably wouldn't take on any of the pointers in the courses. And probably believe the know better anyway.

The people that would be open and receptive to that maybe don't speed so often and would then also not get the benefit.

I think the problem (for want of a better word) with the regular speeders is they pretty much think their decisions are right. ie I am within my limits, it is safe, the conditions are right, there is no 'real' danger, so it is often hard to change someones viewpoint on their own skill set.

I am lucky that I ride like a nana and can't ride fast anyway so that particular motorcycle danger isn't one I face (and I ride an 883 LOL).

Maybe regular speeders should be sent on ride ons with the ambo and fire crews that clean up the mess?

and as a question to you, are you going to watch your speed more carefully from now on or carry on riding as before, mostly legal with the odd 'fang'?