Punishment fit the crime?

**Luckylegs** · 5th April 2011, 20:54

Originally Posted by Tony W

Sober drivers actually cause more accidents and deaths in NZ

Is there a point?

**Tony W** · 5th April 2011, 21:06

Originally Posted by Luckylegs

Is there a point?

Yes.
You seem to have a problem with DIC road-users, but seem unaware that sober drivers are wreaking most of the havoc.
Please have a go at them too....in the interest of fairness.

**Luckylegs** · 5th April 2011, 21:13

Originally Posted by Tony W

Yes.
You seem to have a problem with DIC road-users, but seem unaware that sober drivers are wreaking most of the havoc.
Please have a go at them too....in the interest of fairness.

Oh FFS, is that it?

...out of interest, did you read the whole thread?

**Oblivion** · 5th April 2011, 21:31

Sometimes, I reckon we should take a leaf from Germany, not Australia.

Germany Road deaths: 4468.
German Population; 81802000

Crashes per head of population= 0.005461 (1/200)

New Zealand Road deaths; 375
New Zealand Population; 4406135

Crashes per head of population; 0.008510 (1/117)

They have the Autobahn, where people fly by at unimaginable speeds, and yet they have almost half the amount of crashes we do. Doesn't take a monkey to work out why. Perhaps we have some people that are stupider than monkeys in power at this stage.

Everyones wallet----->

Grubberment coffers----->

(secretly

)

Instate a few of these eh?

http://www.howtogermany.com/pages/tr...iolations.html

**Luckylegs** · 5th April 2011, 21:40

Originally Posted by Oblivion

Sometimes, I reckon we should take a leaf from Germany...

...They have the Autobahn, where people fly by at unimaginable speeds, and yet they have almost half the amount of crashes we do...

yeh... It's got nothin to do with the more stringent licensing and better vehicle fleet has it?

**ducatilover** · 5th April 2011, 22:51

Originally Posted by Luckylegs

yeh... It's got nothin to do with the more stringent licensing and better vehicle fleet has it?

Of course not

**Grahameeboy** · 6th April 2011, 06:30

Originally Posted by marie_speeds

I don't speed

On a 250 I would agree

**Grahameeboy** · 6th April 2011, 06:34

Originally Posted by Luckylegs

No, i didnt think so either and hence why i questioned your general (read black and white) comment that dic should always carry a higher penalty than something like extreme speeding.

Meh, i dont really care, i doubt we'll agree, i didnt actually drink the other night, nevermind drive. Twas merely to illustrate my point.

...Frankly Id give all convicted DIC'ers prison time but, my feeling is still, doing doing 180 anywhere ( or any time) is definately worthy of 6 months walking.

But in the right place 180 is not dangerous...yeah I know leaving myself open....but seriously it is not...often it's just a quick and short burst and then slow down

Most serious accidents are probably well below 180k...I reckon you would be surprised how many fatals are at a speed less than 100k

I am still alive and I do those short bursts....

**marie_speeds** · 6th April 2011, 09:54

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

On a 250 I would agree

**marie_speeds** · 6th April 2011, 09:55

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

often it's just a quick and short burst and then slow down

Typical Bloke

**Toaster** · 6th April 2011, 09:58

Originally Posted by marie_speeds

Typical Bloke

Whatever happened to a long journey and a big build up for the big finale??!!

**Toaster** · 6th April 2011, 10:03

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

I am still alive and I do those short bursts....

There is a time and a place for every circumstance. That is where discretion should be used. I certainly used it.

There was a big difference in my mind between seeing some bikers out on SH16 for a blat on a clear dry road, and a twit racing through a built up area with pedestrians and traffic about.