MNZ board nominations

[Drew]

Could you both please answer.

With our new found profit, what would you like to see being done to grow our road racing National points series as a whole?

[jellywrestler]

Lawrance

That's how the family names spelleded folks...

[Kevin G]

Hi Kevin,

Does the following sound like it happened at the AGM in response to a process being involved?
I know it didn't, and I know I stood up and made a mention of the breach of Constitution number also.

18.0 ALTERATIONS TO CONSTITUTION
18.1 With the exception of Rule 19, these rules may be rescinded, altered or added to by resolution by a two-thirds
majority vote at any AGM Meeting or Special General Meeting of which notice has been duly given, such notice
must contain particulars of the proposed alteration. For avoidance of doubt, a proposed rescission or alteration may
be amended or otherwise modified at any AGM or Special General Meeting.

Scrivy

Hi.
Not sure what you are asking here.
All constitution changes were done at the AGM.

[sidecar bob]

Lawrance

That's how the family names spelleded folks...

Spelt, thats how spellded is spelt.

[Bykmad]

Drew. The Officials Training was restarted in 2007 after a break of several years and this is a continuation of that. It is not a new policy.

[sidecar bob]

Im still waiting for an answer as to wether my post is pretty much as it happened, or a crock of shit.
I dont need half an hour of rhetoric, just a yes or no basically.
I need to clear this up in order to help me to decide which candidate to vote for, as im pretty much "on the fence" at the moment.

There seems to be a serious lapse in peoples memorys as to why its all turned to crap in the last couple of years for chairs & people seem to be pointing the finger at Chris Lawrence, which has got me stumped.
My memory of it is great because I lost over a grand in the process, let me give my recollections of the situation.
An overwhelming majority vote from the NZSRA (then an affiliated club of MNZ) voted in favour of doing two national rounds in the south Isl as had been the norm for many years.
Consequently tickets were purchased for air travel to & from, then for some reason, a senior member of MNZ stood up & said, three rounds down south for sidecars, or you dont qualify for a national championship, completely ignoring the wishes of the majority vote.
Being unable to comit to three rounds down south, along with a number of other teams, we pulled out, (losing our airfares & all) which made doing any other rounds a bit of a mute point because missing rounds, well, i hardly need to explain that one.
The same situation arose again this year & everybody couldnt be arsed with the politics & rubbish, prefering to take advantage of a meeting we were offered to attend in Australia, which was a blast.
Instead of pointing the finger at Chris for ruining the nationals for chairs, look instead to the member from MNZ that wouldnt take any notice of the wishes of the majority of members of the NZSRA, & forced his own agenda on the members, with predictable results.
So Shaun, if you want to know why chair numbers were non existant, go & ask Jim, in sure he can can give you a detailed explination as to why he went against the majority vote.

[Biggles08]

Drew. The Officials Training was restarted in 2007 after a break of several years and this is a continuation of that. It is not a new policy.

So it wasn't a new initiation from Jim? He has just finished telling us it was one of his achievements while he has been president?

Orig quote:
"We now have a comprehensive "Officials Training" programme, which i am proud to say has come about through my contacts with my counterparts in the FIM."

Was it already going prior to this term?

[Drew]

Drew. The Officials Training was restarted in 2007 after a break of several years and this is a continuation of that. It is not a new policy.

So it wasn't a new initiation from Jim? He has just finished telling us it was one of his achievements while he has been president?

Orig quote:
"We now have a comprehensive "Officials Training" programme, which i am proud to say has come about through my contacts with my counterparts in the FIM."

Was it already going prior to this term?

Apologies to Chris for miss spelling his name first off.

Was JT a member of the board in 2007 when the training was started again then perhaps?

I'm also pretty keen to hear an answer to Sicecar bob's question re what went down between MNZ/JT and the sidecar hooligans beginning this nationals season past. If Steve is telling it how it was, could we get a response in to say so.

[Biggles08]

Was JT a member of the board in 2007 when the training was started perhaps?

Possibly, and maybe that is what he meant but I interpreted it as an achievement he has made whilst being in the chief seat. I guess Jim can answer this though

[BJT666]

Drew. The Officials Training was restarted in 2007 after a break of several years and this is a continuation of that. It is not a new policy.

Good evening Bykmad,

The Stewards training re-started in 2007 finished in 2009 and the programme run in a limited form in 2010 is totally different


We look forward to seeing you on Saturday at the "Officials Training" in Auckland, that way you will not make incorrect posts.



BJT666 - Jim Tuckerman.

[BJT666]

Amen to that!

So, in response to my original question, who nominated you this time around Jim? It was a nomination requirement to advise.

Yes, Mr Scrivener it was a requirement and i am 100% sure the Voting Auditor was completely satisfied.
To be quite blant, you don't need to know

[Crasherfromwayback]

We look forward to seeing you on Saturday at the "Officials Training" in Auckland, that way you will not make incorrect posts.

Bykmad, go and sit in the corner with a dunce cap on you naughty boy. Hope you enjoy getting talked to like a 7 year old kid at "Officials Training"!!

[racer40]

Hi Spyda and others,
NZ Road Race Champs- Firstly these are just ideas and if most people dont want it it wont happen, but after talking to many people they want to see a change in format.
I think Nationals should go to a two round series, 1 in NI and 1 in the SI. Make them both big events , invite trade to set up stands for free, run a bike show, stunts etc, really turn it on and try and get a good crowd and entries, more bikes = more spectators.
The weekend after the SI round, run another meeting for those who want to stay and call the two meetings the SI champs, incorporate a club series into that meeting to get more entries, the same goes for NI rounds. The following year the NZ champs go to a different track if they want them.
There is not alot of money around so maybe no testing on the track the week prior to a points round, to save money on tyres, bike wear and tear, time of work and gives the riders who cant go testing a better chance. Maybe 4 races per round, 1 qualifing session , less laps except for TT/GP as it does look a bit boring sometimes when the feild is spread out.
Some have said people wont bother building up race bikes for two rounds but as I say NZ/NI/SI champs, 4 meetings, Tri Series ( 3), Burt Munro, Paeroa, Nelson, Greymouth plus endless club days available. I would'nt want any big events in Feb with the Classic Festival and Paeroa already on.
Anyway Road Race Commission meeting at the AGM in Palm North May 21st, I think,
so you can share your views there.
I believe Jim has done a good job with the stewards/marshalls training schemes he has set up again and would hope the dates for these in the system would continue.
PS Thanks Spyda for the kind words a few pages ago.
Chris Lawrance

[jellywrestler]

help me to decide which candidate to vote for, as im pretty much "on the fence" at the moment.

Fuck man, that's the funniest thing I've read in years, fucking years and years.
thanks for the humour....

[lostinflyz]

Hi Spyda and others,
NZ Road Race Champs- Firstly these are just ideas and if most people dont want it it wont happen, but after talking to many people they want to see a change in format.
I think Nationals should go to a two round series, 1 in NI and 1 in the SI. Make them both big events , invite trade to set up stands for free, run a bike show, stunts etc, really turn it on and try and get a good crowd and entries, more bikes = more spectators.
The weekend after the SI round, run another meeting for those who want to stay and call the two meetings the SI champs, incorporate a club series into that meeting to get more entries, the same goes for NI rounds. The following year the NZ champs go to a different track if they want them.
There is not alot of money around so maybe no testing on the track the week prior to a points round, to save money on tyres, bike wear and tear, time of work and gives the riders who cant go testing a better chance. Maybe 4 races per round, 1 qualifing session , less laps except for TT/GP as it does look a bit boring sometimes when the feild is spread out.
Some have said people wont bother building up race bikes for two rounds but as I say NZ/NI/SI champs, 4 meetings, Tri Series ( 3), Burt Munro, Paeroa, Nelson, Greymouth plus endless club days available. I would'nt want any big events in Feb with the Classic Festival and Paeroa already on.
Anyway Road Race Commission meeting at the AGM in Palm North May 21st, I think,
so you can share your views there.
I believe Jim has done a good job with the stewards/marshalls training schemes he has set up again and would hope the dates for these in the system would continue.
PS Thanks Spyda for the kind words a few pages ago.
Chris Lawrance

Thanks for your views Chris, even if i completely disagree with you

Good to hear some ideas and vision, rather than the bickering and bullshit some on here seem to be basing your platform on.