British project

**Motu** · 14th April 2011, 23:17

Originally Posted by Edbear

Mine would do 72mph with me lying on the tank, but practical cruising was about 50mph.

After a bit of work I would cruise my B31 at 70mph with standard gearing.With all the people racing B31's and 33's,Goldstar cams and pistons must be available after market.Cams,piston,some head work and a carb and exhaust and you have a cast iron Goldstar.I think a swing arm B31 or B33 is the way to go - you get a good handling frame,good gearbox,and all the 650 frame parts to use....and enough stuff to fiddle with the engine to keep you happy for years.Adapt a Triumph clutch (all you need is the hub to fit the BSA mainshaft),a modern ignition system and solid state generator and it would be an everyday bike.

**Voltaire** · 15th April 2011, 06:48

The Daytona history makes an interesting read, how they took on the Harley 750s and won. I think I even read that once came second after Agostini on an MV 500.After I bought my basket case one the research on parts told me it was going to be an expensive engine rebuild. Still ....the old boy in Bluff who's nephew bought it said it would be on the road in no time and it was his 4th or 5 th Triumph rebuild for the year " got to have something to do when you retired he said..."

had a look on TM....nothing lept out saying buy me.....also note that 40 years plus and its only about $130 for rego....

**Paul in NZ** · 15th April 2011, 07:51

Not worth buying? Hmm - kinda depends.

A bit spendy but complete and usable... GREAT bikes

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368969065.htm

A bitsa - make a good flatrack / off road project

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368797058.htm

Someone buy this - definately THE star buy! You dont find these easily buy sadly you could spend lots and it will never be worth much more. It would be in my shed tomorrow if I'd won Lotto. Much cooler than a Daytona

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368800232.htm

Compliance issues making it street legal but you couldnt build this for that $$

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368796146.htm

Not sure about this - I dont think they were all black in 51 or at least had a chrome panel tank so expensive to get that right, tres cool though

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368761310.htm

The makings of a very good classic here...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368558949.htm

Been for sale forever - make an offer. T140 usefulness with 1960's looks, a good project but it screams "I've been hammered'

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368431060.htm

Classic kiwi rural bonnie

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368219479.htm

Worth heaps properly restored. 'maybe'

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368233027.htm

Nice bike - reasonable $$

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368176149.htm

If this was a bit more original or had the twin carb head?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-367950445.htm

Well the price is OK

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-367106094.htm

This has been for sale since the internet was invented - living proof that one mans diamond is another mans irritating stone in the boot.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368376902.htm

Anyway - plenty to choose from

**Paul in NZ** · 15th April 2011, 07:55

Originally Posted by Voltaire

The Daytona history makes an interesting read, how they took on the Harley 750s and won. I think I even read that once came second after Agostini on an MV 500.After I bought my basket case one the research on parts told me it was going to be an expensive engine rebuild. Still ....the old boy in Bluff who's nephew bought it said it would be on the road in no time and it was his 4th or 5 th Triumph rebuild for the year " got to have something to do when you retired he said..."

had a look on TM....nothing lept out saying buy me.....also note that 40 years plus and its only about $130 for rego....

Um - dont confuse a stock 'Daytona' with the bikes Triumph raced at Daytona. Came from the same root stock but trust me, you wont be catching MV's over the hill. VERY very good bikes, better in some ways than the 650 / 750 but they nearly always suffer from a LONG line of impoverished owners who really wanted a 650 but the 500 was cheap and...

**Indiana_Jones** · 15th April 2011, 12:14

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368797058.htm

Good project?

Was thinking take off the bars and stick on some clip-ons

-Indy

**Indiana_Jones** · 15th April 2011, 12:16

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-366443676.htm

or this one, same deal again, ditch bars...

-Indy

**Paul in NZ** · 15th April 2011, 12:54

Most british bikes of the era have the pegs mounted a little too far forwards to suit american tastes. If you run clipons you will need rearsets and then .... either of those bikes is good at the right price but the only way to do a cafe project is properly or else you will be miserable...

**Edbear** · 15th April 2011, 13:15

Originally Posted by Motu

After a bit of work I would cruise my B31 at 70mph with standard gearing.With all the people racing B31's and 33's,Goldstar cams and pistons must be available after market.Cams,piston,some head work and a carb and exhaust and you have a cast iron Goldstar.I think a swing arm B31 or B33 is the way to go - you get a good handling frame,good gearbox,and all the 650 frame parts to use....and enough stuff to fiddle with the engine to keep you happy for years.Adapt a Triumph clutch (all you need is the hub to fit the BSA mainshaft),a modern ignition system and solid state generator and it would be an everyday bike.

Now you're making me nostalgic and wanting it back!

**Indiana_Jones** · 15th April 2011, 13:21

Cheers guys,

Yea one would need new rear sets if they were to stick clip-ons onto it.

Otherwise I'd be getting M-bars etc

The ape hanger/US style isn't gonna work for me lol

-Indy

**Voltaire** · 15th April 2011, 15:38

When I said not much....I meant in the way of bargains..... and I do realize that that it was not a production bike at Daytona.....but still....a pushrod rod bike going that fast ...

What sort of deposit are we talking as the buy price is only the start on a Pom bike unless you buy a restored one...and thats taking a chance too....
The early 70's BSA/Triumph OIF are probably your best bang for buck....Daytonas might just be bang....they are a pretty fragile motor by BMW/Guzzi standards.

**Indiana_Jones** · 15th April 2011, 16:13

between $3-5k for something with no reg etc.

Basket case even considered

-Indy

**Dodgyiti** · 15th April 2011, 17:12

Paul with the Crystal Ball
Been for sale forever - make an offer. T140 usefulness with 1960's looks, a good project but it screams "I've been hammered'

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-368431060.htm

Ha!
Yes I'm pretty sure that was the guy on the last Mapua Guzzi Rally in 2008
He went on the run with us, I was following behind him on my Daytona and he was whipping the arse off that Trumpie, it went well but umm... like Paul said

**Voltaire** · 15th April 2011, 17:46

Swapmeet in Hamilton on Sunday morning at Claudelands...same day as the Holden/ford thing but no real traffic issues last year....in and out early.
Usually a couple of Bonnie projects for sale and other old stuff.... you never know what will turn up at these things. 3-5 K could get you a runner....

**Dodgyiti** · 15th April 2011, 17:52

Paul, I dunno about this one:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=368800232

Sure it is a lovely bike, but study the guy's feedback relating to the last bike he sold.

Negative feedback for hoggly ironhead... buyer complains of electrical problems..seller said in add "too much for my old bones" yet he had only bought it a few months prior and complained to the seller of the same problems the guy who bought it off him had. Reads to me he bought a lemon then passed it on.

Once a bullshitter, always a bullshitter. Wonder what is wrong with this Triumph then...