MNZ board nominations

[Ronin]

Anyone that knows me knows that I don't drink spirits though

So you have a spare woody?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Anyone that knows me knows that I don't drink spirits though

You should try Red Wine mate.

[jellywrestler]

You should try Red Wine mate.

Last time I had red wine I ended up listening to Englebert Humperdinck, and started liking it. No way thanks!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fair enough too.

[scrivy]

Motorcycling New Zealand was advised that Mr Chris Lawrance was about to undergo major surgery (Kidney replacement). After doing some investigation, it became apparent that his condition could effect his ability to ride.
He was still working, still driving, and not on ACC or a sickness benefit - but it could affect his racing??? How did you assume that Jim??
Therefore under it's 'Duty of Care', MNZ put a hold on Mr Lawrance's licence and advised him he would need to supply a "Medical Certificate" before his licence would be released.

Also, it is MNZ’s understanding that several prominent members of the NZSRA campaigned to scuttle the 2010 Nationals. This was relayed to us by several sidecar competitors and we have no reason to disbelieve them.
But while attending the Hampton Downs round of the Suzuki Tri Series, we were advised that Mr Lawrance and Mr Scrivener were organising a trip to Australia for sidecars to compete at the “Barry Sheene Memorial”

As we understand it, this was driven by Mr Scrivener and Mr Lawrance.

I am at a loss as to why this is my fault.

Can you see the pattern that is happening here Jim?? I can see it plain as day. You were told by the 'Haves' (as you put them) an absolute crock of shit!! But you chose to listen to them absolutely. You were proven totally wrong on each case, yet you still accepted their 'Truth' as gospel! Why is that??
You know deep down that you were served it up on a platter. But you singlehandedly chose to treat the 'Have-nots' with contempt and try to bully us into racing.

Now, as for your 'informer' or 'advisor', I have a written copy from him of his threatening remarks made about Chris Lawrance, stating that 'Chris won't race again for a while mate!!'
This happened prior to Paeroa - of which we all know what actions you took in vain to stop Chris from racing. That makes you look like nothing more than a puppet Jim.

You say how was it your fault? You chose personalities over commonsense.
Oh, and you also had the power to do so. That was a despicable act from someone with power. Again, the Board should have asked more questions of your actions. But alas, they didn't. Shame on them for not making you tow the line, with your apparant 1 vote and all.

ATTN CHRIS LAWRANCE


Please elaberate a LOT on your buisness experience

Your Profile on www.mnz.co.nz only shows that you are a racer who has travelled the world a bit ( Good on ya for that) And goals for the future based on what Scrivy has been saying on here for a long time, funny how he wrote your profile by the look of it?
That's fact Shaun, yes I did write it. As you'll see, it has my name on the bottom of the page. That was a requirement, that is why I also asked who nominated JT, which he said was blatantly not my busines.....

I for one have emailed JT and asked/suggested that he 100% Stays of this site with all the rubbish being thrown around, " He said she said" Bollocks.
Chris doesn't need to be told to stay off this site by anyone. He hasn't ever attacked anyone, either verbally or otherwise. Chris isn't a bully, so doesnt stoop to those levels Shaun.

I Know I have typed some SAD shite on here over the last few years, but I DID have a very BAD Head injury, ( AND SHORT MAN COMPLEXES) and have lost one sponsor and one old friend after 25 years of being involved in racing here in NZ due to my RANTING about shite?????
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...missioner-quot
Remember this thread Shaun? You had no problems with me or Bob back then, but overnight you changed. Why is that Shaun?? You too were feed a pile of shit, and you too were suckered in. You love to bag us on here, and have even sent us snide remark texts. But you bag us if we have our say? Strange.

CHRIS, if you are serious about this roll ask your Friend and Promoter to STOP bringing all the garbage to this Public Forum and take care of it all in a PROFESSIONAL BUISNESS like manner, Scrivy is a buisness man and know,s how to act accordingly, and this is NOT the way guy,s.
Promoter?? WTF?? Shaun, this isn't a political party campaign. I simply nominated Chris, I don't speak for him!
All along I have been answering questions that people have asked. I have never liked infactual statements, so I bother to tell the truth. I have broad shoulders, I don't care what people think of me in doing so. The old saying 'Truth hurts sometimes'.

PLEASE THINK OF THE FUTURE OF OUR SPORT AND THE YOUTH READING THIS

It's on an internet site Shaun. If you don't like these posts, you really should go back and read your posts Shaun. The language etc is really off putting for a start!
And you have a higher standing in the racing world than I do, so maybe you should be setting a higher standard?

Scrivy.

[wharfy]

Last time I had red wine I ended up listening to Englebert Humperdinck, and started liking it. No way thanks!

"Thats not unusual..."

Oops sorry thats Tom Jones

[Grumph]

Riders you may have to sit down to read this……….Its not all about you!
Many more people get similar pleasure out of ‘taking part’ without riding a motorbike!...

Quite so...but since it's been licence holders voting only, these people, who may be club members have been denied a vote in the running of their sport.
And I've been round long enough to detect a drop in the quality of the people coming through and willing to stand for office since this came in.
What about introducing a "non - competition" licence with voting rights ?

[wharfy]

Quite so...but since it's been licence holders voting only, these people, who may be club members have been denied a vote in the running of their sport.
And I've been round long enough to detect a drop in the quality of the people coming through and willing to stand for office since this came in.
What about introducing a "non - competition" licence with voting rights ?

YES !!!!!

Jesus I'm so self absorbed it never occurred to me !!!
For every racer there is probably 3 non-racers who have an interest in how MNZ is run !

[sidecar bob]

Can you see the pattern that is happening here Jim?? I can see it plain as day. You were told by the 'Haves' (as you put them) an absolute crock of shit!! But you chose to listen to them absolutely. You were proven totally wrong on each case, yet you still accepted their 'Truth' as gospel! Why is that??

Simple, because he trusted the word of a proven bullshitter.

[TonyB]

Bloody hell. I was hoping that this thread would give me some information about people so I could decide who to vote for. Maybe its somewhere in amongst the 34 pages but who can be arsed shovelling through all the shit to find the gold nugget?

Its the same old shit, different thread. Its irrelevant whether there has been some terrible wrong doing to the sidecar community at some bloody truck meeting that happened years ago, the split in the sidecar community and the constant battling do nothing for their image or for road racing in general. Chris is probably a great guy (don't know- never met him), but unfortunately for him, the PERCEPTION I have is that he's associated with all of this in-fighting in some way. I'm willing to bet I'm not alone in wondering how things will go if he becomes President.
Maybe the current President or his minions did preform some nefarious deed against the Sidecar community, but ulitmately MNZ seems to be functioning a whole lot better than it did two years ago. So we have two sides throwing shit at eachother, both claiming the other one is lying, but ONE side can at least back it up with results, while the other side seems to be noisily self destructing.

[TonyB]

Quite so...but since it's been licence holders voting only, these people, who may be club members have been denied a vote in the running of their sport.
And I've been round long enough to detect a drop in the quality of the people coming through and willing to stand for office since this came in.
What about introducing a "non - competition" licence with voting rights ?

Something useful might come out of this thread after all.

[Biggles08]

Andy is probably a great guy (don't know- never met him), but unfortunately for him, the PERCEPTION I have is that he's associated with all of this in-fighting in some way. I'm willing to bet I'm not alone in wondering how things will go if he becomes President.

Would be an odd thing to happen considering Andy isn't in the running for MNZ president Tony...Its Chris Lawrence vs Jim Tuckerman.

[sidecar bob]

Would be an odd thing to happen considering Andy isn't in the running for MNZ president Tony...Its Chris Lawrence vs Jim Tuckerman.

Twould be rather an odd occurence! However, regardless of who gets in, im prepared to wager that far more than 199 people will vote this election as did last time.
There seems to be a lot more passion surrounding the topic this time.
Im still waiting for my '09 voting pack to arrive, along with many others that didint recieve one last election.

[jellywrestler]

...Its Chris Lawrence vs Jim Tuckerman.

Hey Giggles, it's LAWRANCE.
Nobody ever spells Tuckerman's name wrong eh?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hey Giggles, it's LAWRANCE.
Nobody ever spells Tuckerman's name wrong eh?

Should be spelt with an F