MNZ board nominations

[Kickaha]

he wants to 'listen' and discuss ideas with NZSBK riders to understand what the majority want to see. That's the democratic way.

All riders need to be listened to not just NZSBK competitors

While the majority of the discussion is about Nationals that's not where the majority of racing takes place

[Biggles08]

All riders need to be listened to not just NZSBK competitors

While the majority of the discussion is about Nationals that's not where the majority of racing takes place

Of course... but in the context I was talking about how the Nationals should be run...and I do think as does Choppa as posted earlier, the views of those actually making the effort to compete should be consulted first.

[Kickaha]

the views of those actually making the effort to compete should be consulted first.

Possibly but will that attract new riders into Nationals? the views of those club riders not doing them might

[Biggles08]

Possibly but will that attract new riders into Nationals? the views of those club riders not doing them might

yes and I have no issue with that. BUT...those that ARE doing them are mostly busting their balls to do so and generally are no different than club riders...just more committed or more addicted. The views of those involved surely should have more bearing on how to improve the situation. Remember Kick, I'm merely a club rider too...just a club rider that decided he wanted to compete with the faster guys...thats all.

[jellywrestler]

Maybe to make you feel like you are getting your $$ worth, going forward MNZ should have different membership fees such as 'National Race License' and 'Club Race License' with differing costs for each..

ouch, then that'll widen the bridge from club to nats.
Keep on the posts Biggles though there's some good stuff in there

[wharfy]

Well it did to me and possibly no one else in the world

Do you not think that is just as much up to the clubs to make the improvements you are asking for as much as MNZ

It is indeed, the clubs need to do everything they can to improve things for their members, and the one I belong to does (by giving discounts to members on events they run, track days race series etc.) Most clubs have some sort of junior rider program and are prepared to help their members in any way they can. Some have advanced rider training for non-juniors also.

The things that MNZ can do for clubs to make things better for club level members ?
I actually have no clue what they already do for non road race clubs (e.g. trail rides, trials, MX....) But (notice there is always a but before someone shoots their mouth off) seeing as this is in the RACE forum and I know scratcha is a road racer I will confine my comments/questions to Road Racing (whether street or track):

In my opinion MNZ should be doing everything it possibly can to facilitate the clubs running of road race meetings and make that process as transparent and co-operative as possible. Co-ordination of meeting dates is one area that could possibly be improved, maybe some sort of shared calendar so clubs can see what dates other clubs wish to hold events ? Some are set Whanganui = boxing day Greymouth=Labour weekend but others could be negotiable if everyone knew in advance when other clubs had planned things. Some tracks are harder to get meeting dates for than others so are less flexible.

Develop a relationship with Road Race clubs so that there is an ongoing exchange of ideas and any problems could be addressed sooner rather than later. Club officials and MNZ officials should feel they can air any concerns ask any questions (in either direction) without fear or favour. I hate to use the term but I am talking about CRM (Customer Relationship Management). If a business model where applied to MNZ the affiliated clubs are the customers everybody else is a service provider to MNZ so they can keep their customers happy and the business of the clubs is to keep their members happy.

I believe the initiative for this should come from MNZ - I don't mean hire a "salesman" but ensure that MNZ officials see that as "part of the job" and include it in the "officials training"

So assuming that in the (almost perfect wharfy-world) there is an open and constructive dialogue between MNZ and member clubs what could it be used for ?

Here are the questions for the candidates:

1. Do you believe that there SHOULD be an open and constructive dialogue between MNZ and member clubs ?
2. If the answer to the above is yes, do you believe YOU could help achieve that ?
3. What ideas do YOU have that could use that channel to improve the lot of the members of Road Race Clubs ?

[Kickaha]

MISTAKE, Sorry WARRICK!!!!

That's ok Gollum we all make mistakes

Maybe to make you feel like you are getting your $$ worth, going forward MNZ should have different membership fees such as 'National Race License' and 'Club Race License' with differing costs for each.

Not so long we had exactly that, however I think the club licence only allowed you to race with the club you were a member of

[Biggles08]

It is indeed, the clubs need to do everything they can to improve things for their members, and the one I belong to does (by giving discounts to members on events they run, track days race series etc.) Most clubs have some sort of junior rider program and are prepared to help their members in any way they can. Some have advanced rider training for non-juniors also.

The things that MNZ can do for clubs to make things better for club level members ?
I actually have no clue what they already do for non road race clubs (e.g. trail rides, trials, MX....) But (notice there is always a but before someone shoots their mouth off) seeing as this is in the RACE forum and I know scratcha is a road racer I will confine my comments/questions to Road Racing (whether street or track):

In my opinion MNZ should be doing everything it possibly can to facilitate the clubs running of road race meetings and make that process as transparent and co-operative as possible. Co-ordination of meeting dates is one area that could possibly be improved, maybe some sort of shared calendar so clubs can see what dates other clubs wish to hold events ? Some are set Whanganui = boxing day Greymouth=Labour weekend but others could be negotiable if everyone knew in advance when other clubs had planned things. Some tracks are harder to get meeting dates for than others so are less flexible.

Develop a relationship with Road Race clubs so that there is an ongoing exchange of ideas and any problems could be addressed sooner rather than later. Club officials and MNZ officials should feel they can air any concerns ask any questions (in either direction) without fear or favour. I hate to use the term but I am talking about CRM (Customer Relationship Management). If a business model where applied to MNZ the affiliated clubs are the customers everybody else is a service provider to MNZ so they can keep their customers happy and the business of the clubs is to keep their members happy.

I believe the initiative for this should come from MNZ - I don't mean hire a "salesman" but ensure that MNZ officials see that as "part of the job" and include it in the "officials training"

So assuming that in the (almost perfect wharfy-world) there is an open and constructive dialogue between MNZ and member clubs what could it be used for ?

Here are the questions for the candidates:

1. Do you believe that there SHOULD be an open and constructive dialogue between MNZ and member clubs ?
2. If the answer to the above is yes, do you believe YOU could help achieve that ?
3. What ideas do YOU have that could use that channel to improve the lot of the members of Road Race Clubs ?

Brilliant Kev!

[Biggles08]

ouch, then that'll widen the bridge from club to nats.
Keep on the posts Biggles though there's some good stuff in there

To be fair, the amount I spend on my race license is pittance compared to what I spend to compete at all rounds of the Nats. Its really a mute point and if the difference of say $30 or so between a Nat license and a club license is a argument for a club rider not to compete at the Nats then they never were going to anyway!

[Biggles08]

Not so long we had exactly that, however I think the club licence only allowed you to race with the club you were a member of

I think its still the case...change that to on club meetings but not Nats maybe??

[Tony.OK]

I think its still the case...change that to on club meetings but not Nats maybe??

http://www.mnz.co.nz/download/2010_2...ation_Form.pdf



Most pay the full licence to be able to do other club/street racing I would think.

[Wingnut]

Maybe to make you feel like you are getting your $$ worth, going forward MNZ should have different membership fees such as 'National Race License' and 'Club Race License' with differing costs for each.

Thanks for your response Biggles - All valid points.

I wouldn't like to see any difference in the membership fees - just would like to air the point that there is more to the discussions on here than that of the National level riders.

If I wanted to, I could finance myself to run at the Nationals - but this is something I choose not to do.

[Deano]

DEANO
you did your first National points meeting at
Manfeild after many 'club' days.
I'd be interested to hear from you what made you take that step up?

I had planned on doing the Manfeild round last year but broke my hand a few days before.

I would have liked to enter HD as well this year but it was too expensive on top of all the racing I did in 2010.

I'm hoping to do the whole series in 2012.

[Kickaha]

If I wanted to, I could finance myself to run at the Nationals - but this is something I choose not to do.

If you don't mind telling us why do you choose not to?

[Wingnut]

If you don't mind telling us why do you choose not to?

Sure no problem Kick.

I try to live a somewhat as diverserfied life as possible - its a balancing act.

I have 4 kids under the age of 6 and have a career that is rather demanding in the time dept. I try to attend as many club races that time allows and totally enjoy that.

I probably don't spend enough time with my kids as it is and to venture off and do the nats would be somewhat selfish as far as my family situation is concerned.

So its not that it doesn't interest me personally, I just choose to spread my time across the various responsibilities/commitments as I see fit. Which in this point in time doesn't include racing at the nationals. Its just a personal choice mate.