MNZ board nominations

[wharfy]

To be fair, the amount I spend on my race license is pittance compared to what I spend to compete at all rounds of the Nats. Its really a mute point and if the difference of say $30 or so between a Nat license and a club license is a argument for a club rider not to compete at the Nats then they never were going to anyway!

Yep.

I'm one of those club riders that does street meetings but not that Nats.
Cemetery Circuit - is one of those iconic meetings that EVERYONE should do at least once if they race in NZ. Pearoa is becoming such an event .

The Nat's - Well I'm just not a national class rider, when I was a lad I was a reasonably handy club rugby player, I even got a run in a Taumaranui sub-union under 21 team but I knew I was never going to be a provincial rep never mind a member of the "possibles" (which is what they called the aspiring players in the All Black trial in those days)

So I am never going to do a national series. I might do a Manfeild round if I can ever get my lap times down enough to only get lapped once - Shit I get lapped all the time at club races, but the people who lap me don't have National title at stake.

I would feel like such a dick if say sketchy had to slow to get round me coming out of Dunlop and lost the drive to the line and the championship

Oh and on the subject of being lapped, to all the other back markers out there, the BLUE FLAG means you are about to be overtaken by a faster rider - HOLD YOUR LINE -
Don't slow down or try and get off your line you will have no clue which side the overtaking rider might be planning on passing you how close he is what the closing speed is. Besides if you are getting lapped you are probably not using the same line the fast guys are The BLUE flag is so you don't get a fright when they blow past, and there will probably be more than one and they may pick different sides to pass you

[Drew]

1. Listening to the current National Level competitors and getting our input into how we see things. Why, the riders doing the nats will mostly be back next year. There needs to be little advantage to pandering to them, since it wont grow the sport at all.
2. reducing competitor costs via various methods (possible control tire, less rounds, limited practice time prior to each round etc (to reduce the gap between factory teams vs privateers)
3. Focusing on Increasing crowds and competitor numbers at each round to reduce entry fees (as he clearly has had experience with in TRRS) Ummm, haven't Andy and Chris both said TRRS cost them a fortune out of their own pockets to run?
   

I am interested to hear Jim Tuckermans ideas on this issue too.

I'm not bagging anyone there, just a couple of things I thought I'd raise.

The way i see it is that MNZ should just be the sanctioning body for all that legal / safety / official stuff.
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Corperate sponsorship Poor example of what they should be doing sorry, Jim REALLY dropped the ball on this one two years ago.
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I think its still the case...change that to on club meetings but not Nats maybe??

Why? To achieve what?

Segregating club and Nationals riders further can't help anything surely. We need more club racers to move to the doing the nats as well, and frankly they have nothing to fear from the faster pace. 115% of 1m6s lap of manfield is 1.16s, that is what is deemed to be safe by MNZ. Fuckin heaps of club riders would easily better that consistently, how do we get them to show up?

I think MNZ should get themselves a bulk transport deal, to get peoples bikes to the whole series for fuck all. Flights are so cheap these days that with one foul swoop, expense and effort have just been chopped in half. Double the grids and promote the events loudly, I reckon spectator increases would just about double as well.

Make it a show! Two curtain siders signed up with racing pics, crashes, sponsors promo girls, plastered all over would look friggin mean hooning down the country.

[scracha]

But to go on the web and broadcast a list of bitches right down to expecting them to
Some of them were valid points, but very few.

Look, if you must dredge up a really old post, then try digesting the final point I made. Otherwise, go forth and self procreate.


Wharfy, your comments regarding MNZ involvement in club racing were very good.

[Biggles08]

I'm not bagging anyone there, just a couple of things I thought I'd raise.

Why? To achieve what?

Segregating club and Nationals riders further can't help anything surely. We need more club racers to move to the doing the nats as well, and frankly they have nothing to fear from the faster pace. 115% of 1m6s lap of manfield is 1.16s, that is what is deemed to be safe by MNZ. Fuckin heaps of club riders would easily better that consistently, how do we get them to show up?

I think MNZ should get themselves a bulk transport deal, to get peoples bikes to the whole series for fuck all. Flights are so cheap these days that with one foul swoop, expense and effort have just been chopped in half. Double the grids and promote the events loudly, I reckon spectator increases would just about double as well.

Make it a show! Two curtain siders signed up with racing pics, crashes, sponsors promo girls, plastered all over would look friggin mean hooning down the country.

Bloody ell....I think all the planets are aligned or something....your making way too much sense!

[Drew]

Bloody ell....I think all the planets are aligned or something....your making way too much sense!

These are things I've said before, I'm just too piss crook to deliver them with my usual abrasive manner.

[wharfy]

These are things I've said before, I'm just too piss crook to deliver them with my usual abrasive manner.

So there is an up side to hangovers...

[White trash]

Segregating club and Nationals riders further can't help anything surely. We need more club racers to move to the doing the nats as well, and frankly they have nothing to fear from the faster pace. 115% of 1m6s lap of manfield is 1.16s, that is what is deemed to be safe by MNZ. Fuckin heaps of club riders would easily better that consistently, how do we get them to show up?

I think MNZ should get themselves a bulk transport deal, to get peoples bikes to the whole series for fuck all. Flights are so cheap these days that with one foul swoop, expense and effort have just been chopped in half. Double the grids and promote the events loudly, I reckon spectator increases would just about double as well.

Make it a show! Two curtain siders signed up with racing pics, crashes, sponsors promo girls, plastered all over would look friggin mean hooning down the country.

Bloody ell....I think all the planets are aligned or something....your making way too much sense!

Curtainsiders too expensive, but I have a plan.

Feast your eyes ladies. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...Nationals-2012

I can make it happen, but it needs support.

[White trash]

Scracha's a cunt.

[jasonu]

If Andrew Stroud wanted 10 rounds they would

He gets as many rounds at the Mt Wellington Kart Track as he wants, even when the track is not open.

[Billy]

g a y

Fuck off bitch,I thought we were coming out together???

[Billy]

I'd like to think that if a significant majority of solo riders wanted a change in format for the nationals that MNZ would accommodate them (given enough notice) after all MNZ is supposed to represent the members. Of course getting more than 3% of them to VOTE on anything would be a bloody miracle.

Nope,I would think they would consider a change in format if a significant number of "competitors" indicated they wanted change,NOT JUST solo or sidecar competitors

[Billy]

Two Commissioners resigned, one was Mo Perry the unsuccessful candidates husband, the other was Warren New and then Board member Trevor Heaphy(Paul Stewart was seconded to replace him until there was an election).
I have always thought and said that the sport is bigger than individuals and the successes since then have reinforced that to me.

Paul Searancke

Yip,On the money Paul,Is it not true also that Warren and Trevor made themselves available again almost immediately afterwards(Only to resign again after the Hampton Downs round of the Nationals earlier this year)?

[Kickaha]

Nope,I would think they would consider a change in format if a significant number of "competitors" indicated they wanted change,NOT JUST solo or sidecar competitors

By "competitors" you mean across the board whether they are currently racing Nationals or not?

[Billy]

So those that haven't been on the scene are supposed to just guess at who to vote for?

One candidate gets a couple of pages and the other is only allowed 300 words? Seems kinda odd. Then all this "he said she said" nonsense...............

Whats a novice level member to do? I've not got a clue anymore

Good points Tony,

The best advice I could offer you would be to have a good think about whether the sport has moved forward under the current administration and if some of the changes made are to the benefit or detriment of the sport,

Then look at what the other candidate has too offer and where their facet of the sport has gone in the last 2 years,Has it increased or decreased?

Then I guess you need to factor in that being President of MNZ is not just about roadracing or dealing with competitors and clubs,its a much larger job than most of us realise.

Do you think both candidates can go the distance,One has proved he can already,The other only time and circumstances will tell.

[Biggles08]

Then look at what the other candidate has too offer and where their facet of the sport has gone in the last 2 years,Has it increased or decreased?

And we should all blame Chris Lawrance for this personally I guess...

Like I have said Billy, good to see you supporting Jim Tuckerman so well and he should be happy to have you in his camp...however once again you seem to want to look at this whole election from one side...much the same way that scrivy is.