MNZ board nominations

[Kickaha]

one's 998cc
one's 1168cc
one's 1301cc
take ya pick

Bet it's 1301cc when the sidecar capacity limit is 1300cc, Scrivy you cheating bastard

I was asked to write my views on the crash which I did via email and sent to MNZ.

Who did you get to help with the spelling?

[old rig]

Don't think we've had one yet, although Scrivy deserves a smack in the head on a annual basis

scrivy at prizegiving would perfer a smack or his ass i think
but don't ask for it on a letter head or any head for that

[old rig]

The cubic capacity or the Busa.... was gonna put on of those winky/happy/knowing smiley faces in but I don't know how to do it sorry.

pubic capacity ON The Busa is that the right statment you were ment to post

[scrivy]

Bet it's 1301cc when the sidecar capacity limit is 1300cc, Scrivy you cheating bastard

1299cc. Its a 1999 Busa

[scrivy]

Yo Scribble
I did not put in a complaint against Bryce as you state above.
I was one of the riders in the group at the point of that crash at Hampton Downs and I was asked to write my views on the crash which I did via email and sent to MNZ.

Thanks

Craig

The action was not instigated on the basis of a hearsay statement made on this site,Rather that statement gave them cause for further investigation and they obtained a statement from a top level Superbike rider that was on track and saw the incident unfold.

Hi Craig,

I wasn't the person that named you. Actually, I didn't even know you were involved until today!

Who asked you to write to MNZ with your views (statement)?

My reading of the above had me thinking that MNZ got your statement, then acted accordingly?

.........and your statement was sent by e-mail.............. ... where's the letterhead???

[jellywrestler]

Hi Craig,

I wasn't the person that named you. Actually, I didn't even know you were involved until today!

So if you've got ALL the info on the Meads affair, how come this slipped by?

[scrivy]

So if you've got ALL the info on the Meads affair, how come this slipped by?

What ya yelling for Spyda?
Where did I say I had all the info????????

Getting information doesn't have to be specific to a person Spyda. I don't need to know who did the statement, just that a statement exists, and was handed in to MNZ, and was supposedly acted on. I couldn't give a flying #@$% who it was from. It's hearsay, and means nothing in a court Spyda. More like he said/she said ..............
I care about the due process followed.

Now, what else you got ??

P.S. Nasty doesn't really suit you Spyda.

[jellywrestler]

What ya yelling for Spyda?
Nasty doesn't really suit you Spyda.

Not yelling, just highlighting a little, like you using MENSTRUAL RED for so many of your posts.

You seem to have a lot to say about the whole Meads affair about the process etc but don't seem to have ALL the info???
seems very selective on the whole, please prove me incorrect
So can you tell me what info you DO have and then we can ask MNZ what they have and see what percentage of it you have actually used to base your opinions on?

[jellywrestler]

Nasty doesn't really suit you Spyda.

You haven't seen me in my Bondage gear then have you!

[scrivy]

Not yelling, just highlighting a little, like you using MENSTRUAL RED for so many of your posts.
Usually all my posts.

You seem to have a lot to say about the whole Meads affair about the process etc but don't seem to have ALL the info???
seems very selective on the whole, please prove me incorrect
So can you tell me what info you DO have and then we can ask MNZ what they have and see what percentage of it you have actually used to base your opinions on?

Sorry Spyda, I've got all the info I need to see that the MNZ process was flawed (even others here have stated that fact!!), a double standard given the Tuckerman case, and an over the top penalty IMO.
As I've continually said here, MNZ shouldn't use the code of conduct rule for this charge, as it is flawed, and basically unlawful - as the defendant does not get to voice his response, or have a hearing, or even have an appeal.
Is that FAIR?
And do you think a sponsor should be told about the penalty first??
Isn't that a breach of a persons confidentiality?

What if MNZ wanted to go and personally attack anyone THEY feel fit to, with only 1 persons statement??
What if they wanted to pick on someone who doesn't compete in our sport, but spectates, that did recreational drugs, and that user was a good friend of a top racer?? Would the top racer be attacked and penalised?? That's exactly what could happen under the code of conduct rule.
Again Spyda, is that FAIR?

[jellywrestler]

As I've continually said here, MNZ shouldn't use the code of conduct rule for this charge, as it is flawed, and basically unlawful - as the defendant does not get to voice his response, or have a hearing, or even have an appeal.

OK, I trust your judgement on this so what would be the correct process for a matter similar to this?
Would you be interested in proposing a correct process to MNZ so matters like this can be addressed fairly for all parties?

Anyway, gotta go, all that talk about my bondage gear has got me digging it, I've got some bunnies to deal to tonight.

Last but not least, What do you call a rabbit with a bent cock?


Fucks Funny

[gixerracer]

Hi Craig,

I wasn't the person that named you. Actually, I didn't even know you were involved until today!

Who asked you to write to MNZ with your views (statement)?

My reading of the above had me thinking that MNZ got your statement, then acted accordingly?

.........and your statement was sent by e-mail.............. ... where's the letterhead???

From what I can remember and I have had a couple of concusions since then but it was Paul Stewart that fist asked my opinion on the matter

[scrivy]

OK, I trust your judgement on this so what would be the correct process for a matter similar to this?
Would you be interested in proposing a correct process to MNZ so matters like this can be addressed fairly for all parties?

First up:
As stated in clause 6.4.2 The GB shall conduct itself as transparently as possible. Full minutes of the proceedings of each meeting shall be kept and available to Full members upon request. The GB may, at its sole discretion, authorise the minutes, or any parts thereof, to be published on the MNZ website.
The above would be a great start to ensure they have been transparent. I asked for minutes last year Spyda, and it took well over 1 month to get them, with every excuse under the sun.

Secondly:
There must be a change to the COC rule. No recourse/input/appeal/hearing etc for the defendant is un-constitutional. Judge, Jury and executioner is the result.
With the only recourse for the defendant the sports tribunal. Now imagine if the defendant won. How much would it cost all MNZ members?

Thirdly:
MNZ doesn't even have a conflict of interest policy in their constitution.
Now then, what if a board member, officer or President had a gripe with an individual and used the COC policy to persecute a member??

[scrivy]

From what I can remember and I have had a couple of concusions since then but it was Paul Stewart that fist asked my opinion on the matter

What was the reason for the concussions???

Kick said it wasn't from overexertion from sex......

[Billy]

The whole thing about his kidney transplant seems pretty moot. If I was in renal failure the last thing I would think to do is alert MNZ. And if I feel fit to ride, I'll bloody do it! I recall Bruce Anstey being woken up in his van to go and ride at Manfield. Dude looked like death not even warmed up, he was recovering from chemotherapy I think, and nobody said a thing then, what's the difference?

So am I reading this right ? Its OK for a competitor to not follow the correct protocol and inform MNZ of a health issue that COULD affect their ability to control a machine,BUT its not OK for MNZ to use the code of conduct as a tool because the members dont feel its the right protocol even though its in the rulebook.

Oh and waking people up to start a race is not uncommon,When Stroudy did the 4 hour with Brian Bernard a few years back,He was sleeping between his stints and in fact during Brians first stint we had to retreive him from his motorhome where he was asleep,Was a job just to get him to stay in pitlane and sleep