MNZ board nominations

[scrivy]

How'd you get on with the financials Billy?

[gixerracer]

Sorry Spyda, I've got all the info I need to see that the MNZ process was flawed (even others here have stated that fact!!), a double standard given the Tuckerman case, and an over the top penalty IMO.
As I've continually said here, MNZ shouldn't use the code of conduct rule for this charge, as it is flawed, and basically unlawful - as the defendant does not get to voice his response, or have a hearing, or even have an appeal.
Is that FAIR?
And do you think a sponsor should be told about the penalty first??
Isn't that a breach of a persons confidentiality?

What if MNZ wanted to go and personally attack anyone THEY feel fit to, with only 1 persons statement??
What if they wanted to pick on someone who doesn't compete in our sport, but spectates, that did recreational drugs, and that user was a good friend of a top racer?? Would the top racer be attacked and penalised?? That's exactly what could happen under the code of conduct rule.
Again Spyda, is that FAIR?

So what exact info did you have to make up your mind without all info

[Kickaha]

So what exact info did you have to make up your mind without all info

All the stuff his imaginary friend gave him

[gixerracer]

All the stuff his imaginary friend gave him

Yea you and him are his only friends according to the info I have got but I may not have all the facts yet

[scrivy]

So what exact info did you have to make up your mind without all info

The same that Shaun had when he decided the NZSRA were all tossers.
Obviously enough for him to make a judgmental decission..........

You go far back enough to read the posts Craig?

I'll ask you this Craig, 'What exact info did the Board have to make up their minds'? - as they only had 1 side of the story too apparantly.................
Or I should say - they only needed 1 side of the story.

[SWERVE]

So am I reading this right ? Its OK for a competitor to not follow the correct protocol and inform MNZ of a health issue that COULD affect their ability to control a machine,BUT its not OK for MNZ to use the code of conduct as a tool because the members dont feel its the right protocol even though its in the rulebook.

Oh and waking people up to start a race is not uncommon,When Stroudy did the 4 hour with Brian Bernard a few years back,He was sleeping between his stints and in fact during Brians first stint we had to retreive him from his motorhome where he was asleep,Was a job just to get him to stay in pitlane and sleep

Hey Billy
I have a good friend who has raced as a team mate to Stroudy at International endurance race and he also said that they have had to "kick him awake" just as the pitboard went out for the current rider to come in........legend

Another is the story of Joey Dunlop drunken comatose in a Macau hotel lift all night woken at 8.00pm racing at 9.00 and WON............ real racers eh.

I can remember the good old days when everyonr partied till dawn.... slept in vans..... and raced with a hangover

[gixerracer]

The same that Shaun had when he decided the NZSRA were all tossers.
Obviously enough for him to make a judgmental decission..........

You go far back enough to read the posts Craig?

I'll ask you this Craig, 'What exact info did the Board have to make up their minds'? - as they only had 1 side of the story too apparantly.................
Or I should say - they only needed 1 side of the story.

Shaun is a very wise man so if it's good enough for him I will take his word
As for what info the board had I wouldnt no as I just told them what I saw and that's all I had to do with it.
How did the board have one side they had I would say at least 5 people on the track that saw plus the corner marshalls??
The riders reaction after the fact did himself ZERO favours also.
Shit happens thats racing etc isnt a great come back especially when it is a track day for road roders to enjoy riding a race track not a race meeting soo shit shouldnt happen IMO

[Billy]

How'd you get on with the financials Billy?

Yip,Page 3,Net surplus 2009 = -$131,385, 2010 = $223,481 surplus

[slowpoke]

Shit happens thats racing etc isnt a great come back especially when it is a track day for road roders to enjoy riding a race track not a race meeting soo shit shouldnt happen IMO

I tell ya what, for a a bloke who enjoys scrambling his brain more than his eggs your scone works suprisingly well. Well said mate.

[Shaun]

The same that Shaun had when he decided the NZSRA were all tossers.
Obviously enough for him to make a judgmental decission..........

You go far back enough to read the posts Craig?

I'll ask you this Craig, 'What exact info did the Board have to make up their minds'? - as they only had 1 side of the story too apparantly.................
Or I should say - they only needed 1 side of the story.

Scrivy, back the truck up RE_READ what I said about TOSSERS ( How you could have misunderstood it has me totaly shocked)

" I NEVER mentioned your CLUB" Assumptions are Dangerous things sport" But please carry on driver

[budda]

What if they wanted to pick on someone who doesn't compete in our sport, but spectates, that did recreational drugs, and that user was a good friend of a top racer?? Would the top racer be attacked and penalised?? That's exactly what could happen under the code of conduct rule.
Again Spyda, is that FAIR?

Actually, if the friend was partaking while attending a sanctioned event, and was in his mates pit, the racer WOULD be penalised ......... as you certainly know, the racer is responsible for the actions of those in his pit, and acknowledges that when he signs the entry form. NOT a new JT rule, been that way for many many years

[Billy]

Actually, if the friend was partaking while attending a sanctioned event, and was in his mates pit, the racer WOULD be penalised ......... as you certainly know, the racer is responsible for the actions of those in his pit, and acknowledges that when he signs the entry form. NOT a new JT rule, been that way for many many years

Yes correct again young fella,Had this impressed on me by Errol Conaghan at Manfeild as far back as 1978 when a supporter of mine was hanging around my pit area drunk!

[Billy]

Odd response Ash to remove the copy of the letter ????

Also could you clarify a couple of things for me?Was the letter sent Sandra Perry and if so why her and not the board at MNZ as they are the ones charged with making the decisions.

Anybody care too answer these for me???

[Billy]

The incidents were about 1 month apart.
Its as I was saying all along Biggles, but Billy puts his slant on it and tries to sweep it under the carpet.
Not good for the figurehead of our sport.

Put my slant on it and sweep it under the carpet?

Theres nothing too sweep under the carpet,No charge = no breach and the letter posted on here was from the complainant and is only one side of the story,The only people that know BOTH sides of the story are the complainant,The alleged offender and the board that reviewed the case,Care to explain how Im supposed to sweep that under the carpet??

[Billy]

Dude.... and thankfully that is the reason you're not on the Board!!
So.......... was the letter from the top level superbike rider that put a complaint against Bryce on official letterhead also??? Or even on police letterhead??

Yo Scribble
I did not put in a complaint against Bryce as you state above.
I was one of the riders in the group at the point of that crash at Hampton Downs and I was asked to write my views on the crash which I did via email and sent to MNZ.

Thanks

Craig

Thank you Craig for clearing that up.