MNZ board nominations

[Billy]

Just the financials in your membership pack are fine.
Jim's also stated the fact on facebook too.

"Yes the current Board has turned MNZ’s fortunes around (from $100k loss to $200K profit), but it would not be good governance to rush out and spend that."

So your admiting they did now?Werent you adamant earlier they had not??

[Billy]

In Reply to post number 949 for you Scrivy

Craigs letter didnt need verification as your now aware,It was a statement he was asked to supply

I am sure Chris has been out and about,But he has also been on Marcus's facebook page and answered queries posted on there after mine,Youve got too wonder dont you?

The only mention I have seen him make surrounding junior training was posted on this thread earlier and mentioned Avalon Biddle and Daniel Mettam plying their trade in buckets and no mention of any intergration into the streetstock of prolite classes,I would suggest both Daniel and Avalon learned their respective racecraft long after leaving bucket racing,Daniel through his Scholarship at Victoria motorcycle club and training from Peter Jones at MCC and Jamie Rajek at Wolfpack racing,Avalon from the same plus an extended series in Australia organised again by Peter Jones and his helpers at MCC,I am left wondering if he has any serious plans in place?

I mentioned SOME of the board and commissioners would not work with Chris,Not all as you have claimed

Finally,I f you have chosen NOT to speak to Jim over the assault charge,Then you cant have the whole story and it is nothing more than your slanted opinion as you stated to Shaun in post 939.

[Shaun]

I mentioned SOME of the board and commissioners would not work with Chris,Not all as you have claimed

Finally,I f you have chosen NOT to speak to Jim over the assault charge,Then you cant have the whole story and it is nothing more than your slanted opinion as you stated to Shaun in post 939.[/QUOTE]


Scrivy, Slanted opinion? Non Fact? Total Truth? ( Because he says so) Ba hahahaha have a bloody good day

[Shaun]

OK, So Jim Tuckerman is a loud mouthed opinionated rudely spoken direct aggresive man?? WOW, Sounds like a PETROLHEAD to me, who has a focus on getting a job done. Actually sounds just like me hahaha

( Trying to use a so called ASSULT charge against him is pathetic! Now I do understand the usage of highlighting the fact that this situation Technically did take place, I also know only JIM and the lady and her man were in the same room together ( Only those 3 where this so called assult took place) Would YOU assult a mans women in front of him? Did not think so, Jim is loud and direct, but far from a women beating moron

POLITICS sneak in here sorry, Jim ( And Team) has achieved SAVINGS for MNZ, the training programmes for stewards etc are growing, the Industry was behind the racing scene last season, Jim has only really just started in this roll, we cannot expect the world to be changed in one year or 2, time is a thing we have to invest into his roll/position, a case of hanging them selves or making better things happen for OUR SPORT ( Yes I do include you in OUR SPORT Scrivy, that;s if you ever get to keep your MNZ license after all the slagging of MNZ and staff and FAMILY FINANCUALL MEMBERS on here bringing the sport into disrepute!) This is one sword you should DIE on, the rule is there clear for all to read. " VERBAL ASSULT IS AS DAMAGING AS PHYSICALL, so what;s your excuse for all the pain you are handing out on here.

We can and do all learn from our mistakes, I would hope to see Jim Tuckerman get back in at least one more time, so he can finish some started projects as well as show us the newer projects to keep growing our sport, I suggest that IF JIM was to be Re-Instated " VOTED BACK IN" We would all see a man on a massive mission to PROOVE the slaggers wrong, and a very focused buisness man re garding rules/rolls/actions, PLEASE rememeber folks, the roll is NOT A PAID roll, so based on the FACT that Jim has COMMITTED so many many many hours already to OUR SPORT, lets ALL give the man a chance to Flourish or HANG himself.


Chris Lawrence would be good in the roll, but JIM has not yet peaked in the roll, and WE WOULD BE BLOODY STUPID not to use up his energy/contacts for at least one more year, especially after this total wank thread, the MAN will come out fighting ( NO SCRIVY) just like a WINNER does.

I have said this time and time and time again, the whole PROBLEM with racing in NZ, is THE DAM RIDERS, not MNZ this or that or who ever, just the riders being appethetic and in the case of this thread, just a few with Assumtions and LIES ( Cleaverly typed though) trying to stir the pot because they simplly personally do not like some one, GOOD WORK BOYS< KEEP OUR SPORT GROWING PLEASE

[White trash]

Where the fuck is Shaun and what have you done with him?!

[Billy]

OK, So Jim Tuckerman is a loud mouthed opinionated rudely spoken direct aggresive man?? WOW, Sounds like a PETROLHEAD to me, who has a focus on getting a job done. Actually sounds just like me hahaha

( Trying to use a so called ASSULT charge against him is pathetic! Now I do understand the usage of highlighting the fact that this situation Technically did take place, I also know only JIM and the lady and her man were in the same room together ( Only those 3 where this so called assult took place) Would YOU assult a mans women in front of him? Did not think so, Jim is loud and direct, but far from a women beating moron

POLITICS sneak in here sorry, Jim ( And Team) has achieved SAVINGS for MNZ, the training programmes for stewards etc are growing, the Industry was behind the racing scene last season, Jim has only really just started in this roll, we cannot expect the world to be changed in one year or 2, time is a thing we have to invest into his roll/position, a case of hanging them selves or making better things happen for OUR SPORT ( Yes I do include you in OUR SPORT Scrivy, that;s if you ever get to keep your MNZ license after all the slagging of MNZ and staff and FAMILY FINANCUALL MEMBERS on here bringing the sport into disrepute!) This is one sword you should DIE on, the rule is there clear for all to read. " VERBAL ASSULT IS AS DAMAGING AS PHYSICALL, so what;s your excuse for all the pain you are handing out on here.

We can and do all learn from our mistakes, I would hope to see Jim Tuckerman get back in at least one more time, so he can finish some started projects as well as show us the newer projects to keep growing our sport, I suggest that IF JIM was to be Re-Instated " VOTED BACK IN" We would all see a man on a massive mission to PROOVE the slaggers wrong, and a very focused buisness man re garding rules/rolls/actions, PLEASE rememeber folks, the roll is NOT A PAID roll, so based on the FACT that Jim has COMMITTED so many many many hours already to OUR SPORT, lets ALL give the man a chance to Flourish or HANG himself.


Chris Lawrence would be good in the roll, but JIM has not yet peaked in the roll, and WE WOULD BE BLOODY STUPID not to use up his energy/contacts for at least one more year, especially after this total wank thread, the MAN will come out fighting ( NO SCRIVY) just like a WINNER does.

I have said this time and time and time again, the whole PROBLEM with racing in NZ, is THE DAM RIDERS, not MNZ this or that or who ever, just the riders being appethetic and in the case of this thread, just a few with Assumtions and LIES ( Cleaverly typed though) trying to stir the pot because they simplly personally do not like some one, GOOD WORK BOYS< KEEP OUR SPORT GROWING PLEASE

Well said Shaun,

Add to this the fact Chris has constantly refused too answer My post here or on facebook or directly too me and any of the posts he has answered here or on Marcus's facebook page indicate he has no clear mandate to improve the sport and I reiterate you only have to look at the farce that sidecar racing has become too see where we are headed if Chris is elected,A protest vote is not good enough reason for dragging the sport backwards.

[Drew]

So am I reading this right ? Its OK for a competitor to not follow the correct protocol and inform MNZ of a health issue that COULD affect their ability to control a machine,BUT its not OK for MNZ to use the code of conduct as a tool because the members dont feel its the right protocol even though its in the rulebook.

Oh and waking people up to start a race is not uncommon,When Stroudy did the 4 hour with Brian Bernard a few years back,He was sleeping between his stints and in fact during Brians first stint we had to retreive him from his motorhome where he was asleep,Was a job just to get him to stay in pitlane and sleep

Not really what I meant. I would not endanger myself or anyone else by riding when I wasn't up to it. But I think I'm the best judge of when that is. I would expect Chris to do the same, and infact we all trust our fellow racers to do it every time we line up. The flip side of the same coin I suppose, is that I don't think I would have trusted Bryce to remove himself before the whole thing happened. He rode with an air of being the most important guy on the track (clearly he was wrong as I AM THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON ON THE TRACK). But I've stated already that I do not think that means can justify the ends. If I'm seen to be riding injured or impaired and there is to be punishment for from MNZ for not alerting them to an ailment, then I want a chance to present my case.

We all enjoy the freedoms offered by due process, we are all subject to the code of conduct set out in the constitution of our club. The only time it does not apply is if any rule or guidline is in direct conflict with the rules of sporting NZ, or NZ law.

Again, what I meant about Bruce is that the guy was fuckin ill. He could hardly stand up, and looked as though if he caught a sniff of the hotdog stands he'd barf up his own intestine, rather than any food because he was so thin a cornflake would have stood out against his stomach.

[Shaun]

Well said Shaun,

I reiterate you only have to look at the farce that sidecar racing has become too see where we are headed if Chris is elected,A protest vote is not good enough reason for dragging the sport backwards.

Scrivy says it is good enough Billy, so it must be, as he is Genuinely serious about trying to help the New Zealand officuall championship for the good of all, as his race entries PROOVE



I am sure Chris is very busy mate, running his own buisness with 3 staff takes a lot of commitment and time management, as well as He is out and about at the moment putting his face in front of people to build the numbers required to win the ellection, and bloody good on him for the work he is doing, but just Once more, IF he really has some thing to offer us, OFFER IT UP CHRIS? Not your MOUTH piece on here please please please

When there already are plan/s in place, it is quite SIMPLE to step in and take over and keep it functioning, but coming up with and manageing NEW idea's/plan's is where the experience and contacts kick in!!!!!!!!

COST OF RACING TO EXSPENSIVE

Fuckin Bollocks, Yea it is exspensive, but so is taking a DUMP these days with the cost of toilet paper, Milk, Petrol, Not to mention STELLA:S

Fact is the costs have gone up, and will keep going up, but this dose not stop the kids from getting new Cell phones and gadgets to play with, the sport just needs the Junior classes worked on BIG TIME to bring on the future racers, a ONE make tyre rule, again BOLLOCKS, some riders love what they love and hate what they hate ie, SIMON CRAFER etc etc etc.

We can ALL complain about many many things, but how many of US actually come up with constructive idea;s????? Very easy to bash, but bloody hard to create new idea;s revenues for our sport

[Drew]

you only have to look at the farce that sidecar racing has become too see where we are headed if Chris is elected,A protest vote is not good enough reason for dragging the sport backwards.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I'm trying to remain impartial on this thread and not pick sides.

I am however getting pissed off with the finger pointing regarding sidecars. I haven't seen any reason to blame Chris for the downturn in numbers at the nats, for anything more than the ONE rig he would have been riding. He and others approached only riders not committing to the nats to go to OZ this year. It was my fault there wasn't a grid for three of the five rounds this year, so you are more than welcome to slag me for it.

[sidecar bob]

you only have to look at the farce that sidecar racing has become too see where we are headed if Chris is elected

the blame for that rests with the Jim Tuckerman Steve Bron backroom alliance & Jim ignoring the majority vote in favour of his special chum.
Im not sure what Chris has got to do with it, he hasnt had a governing role in the NZSRA for several years now.

Chris not answering questions on here? well Shaun told Jim to stay away so whats the difference? of course Chris is probably smart enough not to need advising of that by a gremlin & probably worked that out for himself.
As you were now.

[Shaun]

the blame for that rests with the Jim Tuckerman Steve Bron backroom alliance & Jim ignoring the majority vote in favour of his special chum.
Im not sure what Chris has got to do with it, he hasnt had a governing role in the NZSRA for several years now.

Chris not answering questions on here? well Shaun told Jim to stay away so whats the difference? of course Chris is probably smart enough not to need advising of that by a gremlin & probably worked that out for himself.
As you were now.

I will admit to liking your witt on accasions SWINGER

[old rig]

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I'm trying to remain impartial on this thread and not pick sides.

I am however getting pissed off with the finger pointing regarding sidecars. I haven't seen any reason to blame Chris for the downturn in numbers at the nats, for anything more than the ONE rig he would have been riding. He and others approached only riders not committing to the nats to go to OZ this year. It was my fault there wasn't a grid for three of the five rounds this year, so you are more than welcome to slag me for it.

hay if you can't race you can't
no body should slag you for it
there are just people out there trying to make chris look bad
if chris lets other people ride his chair isn't that good for the sport

[Billy]

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I'm trying to remain impartial on this thread and not pick sides.

I am however getting pissed off with the finger pointing regarding sidecars. I haven't seen any reason to blame Chris for the downturn in numbers at the nats, for anything more than the ONE rig he would have been riding. He and others approached only riders not committing to the nats to go to OZ this year. It was my fault there wasn't a grid for three of the five rounds this year, so you are more than welcome to slag me for it.

Hi Drew,

As I have stated in previous posts,I dont blame Chris completely and I understand completely he only has one rig,But by not fronting himself he was aggravating the situation and Im sure most people are aware of his popularity and standing amongst the sidecar fraternity,If anybody could have reversed the situation it was him.
Re the he was only 1 rig comment,What say I had taken that attitude towards having the Prolite class recognised as a National championship this past season,Oh I can only take 4 bikes to round 1 and they won't accept less than 6,Bugger it I won't bother,That would have meant there were only 4 bikes on the grid and the Championship wouldnt have ever got off the ground,I wouldnt ask absolutely anybody else,Chris included to go to the lengths I did,But atleast fronting up and showing some solidarity would have alleviated the situation and quite frankly his "I dont have to do the Nationals every year"Statement just doesnt wash with a lot of people.

Ill ask the question again,Is this how he intends too run MNZ if elected??

[Billy]

the blame for that rests with the Jim Tuckerman Steve Bron backroom alliance & Jim ignoring the majority vote in favour of his special chum.

WELL IF THATS HOW YOU SEE IT STEVE,THEN YOUR ENTITLED TOO YOUR OPINION AND OTHERS ARE ENTITLED TOO THEIRS
Im not sure what Chris has got to do with it, he hasnt had a governing role in the NZSRA for several years now.
I HAVE EXPLAINED MY OPINION ON THIS IN ANOTHER POST
Chris not answering questions on here? well Shaun told Jim to stay away so whats the difference? of course Chris is probably smart enough not to need advising of that by a gremlin & probably worked that out for himself.
As you were now.

Again fair call,But I have offered him the opportunity too answer on facebook or directly to my email address,Which he has clearly chosen too ignore,Care to explain???

[Billy]

hay if you can't race you can't
no body should slag you for it

correct and to the best of my knowledge nobody has slagged drew,least of all me

there are just people out there trying to make chris look bad

look bad,or trying too get his "slant" on it so we can establish if this is how mnz will be operated under his presidency
if chris lets other people ride his chair isn't that good for the sport

no thats great,pity it couldnt have been for the whole series like i did with 5 of my bikes too support a championship!