Stranger moving your bike?

[Smifffy]

My statement didn't reference the OP. If there wasn't a good reason it still stands.



If they're moving it for no reason, then obviously they need a talking to. Generally you'll find that there is a reason for moving a bike. Shit if an ambulance needed your space to get to someone in need would you berate them as well for not asking?

Obviously an extreme but what you're really trying to say is that you don't want people touching your bike regardless of whether it's to convenience themselves without permission.

What I'm trying to say is that if someone moves my bike and doesn't damage it, is for a reason (ie getting somewhere) that doesn't inconvenience me then -> all good. Who cares?

There you go making up reasons to mess with somebody else's gear again. What I consider a good reason for someone to mess with my stuff, whether it is a bike, a car or a backpack is up to me. I get to decide, if I'm blocking the only access for an ambo then maybe fair enough eh?

Why don't you read the OP, and gather the context of the thread before glibly deciding that because you are so special you get to decide whose property you want to interfere with, and for what reason.

Maybe you don't have much pride in your bike, maybe you didn't have to work hard to be able to afford it, and maybe you don't go to much trouble to keep it looking and running good. Other people do, and they should be able to leave their bikes or cars parked in a legitimate parking space without having it interfered with.

Please explain to me what is so difficult about that concept?

In the OP, there was no gate. There was no driveway. There was no ambulance. There was no fire appliance, nor was there an Easter Parade coming through. There was just an ignorant git with a trailer.

[MarkH]

Way back on post 2:

Unless your bike is parked in some stupid place blocking people nobody should be touching it.

Since then a lot of stupid shit has been posted.

The OP and the 1st person responding understand - this is about people fucking with your stuff without a good reason to. If you park in front of a driveway then you are an idiot and have no right to complain if someone moves your bike, but if you park in a legit spot and there is no good reason for anyone to touch it then they should be leave it the fuck alone.

I always try to park where/how I won't inconvenience anyone else - that is just being considerate. If people that don't have any reason to touch my stuff would leave it alone then I appreciate their considerateness.

A little respect for other peoples property as long as they are good enough to be considerate to others shouldn't be too much to ask should it? Is this really that hard to understand or are a couple of people just trolling here?

[jafar]

Yup, that's bullshit. Hope that dude got a smack.

Only one ?


This one I'm less sympathetic to, sad guy. Yeah if they're fucking around with it, castrate that shit but if they just want a pic, why go postal?

I see your beef in that it's your property but I think a lot of people react in the wrong way. No wonder people think motorcyclists are cunts.

He had his kids with their snotty little shitpickers all over my bike!!

I'll wait to see what you do when you find some no nothing fucktard messing with your bike

[jazfender]

What I consider a good reason for someone to mess with my stuff, whether it is a bike, a car or a backpack is up to me. I get to decide, if I'm blocking the only access for an ambo then maybe fair enough eh?

That's the only difference here, what you and I consider good enough reasons to move a bike.

Why don't you read the OP, and gather the context of the thread before glibly deciding that because you are so special you get to decide whose property you want to interfere with, and for what reason.

My statement had to do with issues surrounding the discussion, not the OP.

This is about attitudes of bikers towards people who are acting legitimately. That's not to say the person in the OP did.

Other people do, and they should be able to leave their bikes or cars parked in a legitimate parking space without having it interfered with.

Sure but having more or less pride in your vehicle shouldn't affect whether or not somebody else can move it for legitimate reasons. No matter how much you love your bike, it is still a hunk of metal and it still may be causing someone else inconvenience. That's not the biker or the other person's fault, it's the designer of the space.

In the OP, there was no gate. There was no driveway. There was no ambulance. There was no fire appliance, nor was there an Easter Parade coming through. There was just an ignorant git with a trailer.

Great! Cos I still didn't reference the fucking OP.

[jazfender]

He had his kids with their snotty little shitpickers all over my bike!!

I'll wait to see what you do when you find some no nothing fucktard messing with your bike

if someone's messing with my bike they'll get no less than angry abuse. If they're taking a pic man who cares?

But yeah, that to me is not as legit as moving a bike that's blocking something so I think you're in the right in asking them to get off. Don't think it justifies abuse though.

[Owl]

The OP and the 1st person responding understand - this is about people fucking with your stuff without a good reason to. If you park in front of a driveway then you are an idiot and have no right to complain if someone moves your bike, but if you park in a legit spot and there is no good reason for anyone to touch it then they should be leave it the fuck alone.

I always try to park where/how I won't inconvenience anyone else - that is just being considerate. If people that don't have any reason to touch my stuff would leave it alone then I appreciate their considerateness.

A little respect for other peoples property as long as they are good enough to be considerate to others shouldn't be too much to ask should it? Is this really that hard to understand or are a couple of people just trolling here?

Exactly!

[Smifffy]

That's the only difference here, what you and I consider good enough reasons to move a bike.

The point is this: My Bike = My reasons.

Nobody else gets to decide. I will decide on the day, at the time whether i think your reason was good enough. If I don't think that your reason was good enough, then that's up to me. Not you, because it is not your fucking bike. It is my bike, and I will decide, regardless of how valiant you may think your efforts are, you have not sought permission to interfere with my bike, you have not assumed legal responsibility for any damage done to it, and you have no right to touch it.

If you are the sort of person who goes around moving, or otherwise touching the property belonging to others then you should possibly expect to be the victim of assault one day.

If there was a row of a dozen gang bikes parked up, and you thought one of them was parked in a manner that inconvenienced you, would you move it? Really?

[jafar]

if someone's messing with my bike they'll get no less than angry abuse. If they're taking a pic man who cares?.

1/ they were on my bike without my knowledge or consent
2/ They did not ask
3/ I FUCKING CARE

But yeah, that to me is not as legit as moving a bike that's blocking something so I think you're in the right in asking them to get off. Don't think it justifies abuse though.

You are now bringing arguments that have nothing to do with the situation.
If you are referring to the OP, then that cage driver had no right to move his bike either for the reasons I have previously stated.

[unstuck]

Didnt see this comingThe brotherhood of the bike

[jazfender]

The point is this: My Bike = My reasons.

Nobody else gets to decide. I will decide on the day, at the time whether i think your reason was good enough. If I don't think that your reason was good enough, then that's up to me. Not you, because it is not your fucking bike. It is my bike, and I will decide, regardless of how valiant you may think your efforts are, you have not sought permission to interfere with my bike, you have not assumed legal responsibility for any damage done to it, and you have no right to touch it.

Yup, your property, your reasons. And that applies when you are with the bike, no worries.

The thing is, it's not just about the act of moving it, it's who is moving it that factors as well. Most people (I hope) would have no problem with a loved one moving their bike without asking if it were inconveniencing them. It's the lack of trust in a stranger that fuels the fear and abuse.

It's unreasonable, in my opinion, to get angry at someone for moving something and putting it back that is inconveniencing them if the owner is nowhere.

If there was a row of a dozen gang bikes parked up, and you thought one of them was parked in a manner that inconvenienced you, would you move it? Really?

Nope, but only because of my (admittedly preconceived) notions of gang members being unreasonable people.

[Pegasus]

It's unreasonable, in my opinion, to get angry at someone for moving something and putting it back that is inconveniencing them if the owner is nowhere.
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Not the case in this situation! 1. Owners were within earshot, even if not with a direct line sight, due to his actions. 2. The TOSSER did not put anything back, just left it to inconvenience someone else. But then I guess they could probably back a trailer.

[jazfender]

1/ they were on my bike without my knowledge or consent
2/ They did not ask
3/ I FUCKING CARE

Look, I get your reaction because sitting on a bike implies messing around with it so it's a little different to what I'm talking about with agent smith up there.

And I agree it's a bit cheeky to sit on it, maybe standing next to it for a pic until they have permission, but come on. In terms of harm done, that hasta be pretty low. I personally wouldn't ruin someone's day for that.

You are now bringing arguments that have nothing to do with the situation.
If you are referring to the OP, then that cage driver had no right to move his bike either for the reasons I have previously stated.

Nah bro, not talking about the OP.

[jazfender]

Not the case in this situation! 1. Owners were within earshot, even if not with a direct line sight, due to his actions. 2. The TOSSER did not put anything back, just left it to inconvenience someone else. But then I guess they could probably back a trailer.

Yeah, sounds like this asshat got what was coming.

[Smifffy]

It's unreasonable, in my opinion, to get angry at someone for moving something and putting it back that is inconveniencing them if the owner is nowhere.

So you are prepared to take the risk of damaging someone else's property simply to avoid a personal inconvenience?

That's unreasonable to me.

[Smifffy]

Yeah, sounds like this asshat got what was coming.

So in the 'sanctimonious' video clip I posted, do you believe that the fella that was sitting on the bike was acting reasonably and within his rights?