General bitch (oops, I mean discussion) about bikers thread

[neels]

There is a normal?

Yep.

Every time I get a new tyre I get like that, or when I get back on the ducati after thrashing the crap out of the yamaha to get anywhere.

I like to think it's a good thing.

[oneofsix]

Katman is trying to teach us mantrol sorry I just saw the ad on telly
I feel we need to discuss our off openly and the yahoo image needs to be tamed but then I saw 4wdtv at the weekend and was commenting on the way they always showed the vehicles going flat out instead of responsibly. Is this the real problem, the image not the KBers?

[davebullet]

I would wager that the amount of personal responsibilty taken is directly proportional to maturity + IQ.

Time for another poll? I mean how many people really believe it is "someone elses fault". Those that do I bet crash more than once. No learning loop with them is there? - too fucking thick.

[Katman]

but then I saw 4wdtv at the weekend and was commenting on the way they always showed the vehicles going flat out instead of responsibly.

I wonder if that's something that motorcycle magazines need to consider.

Just what image is wheel standing bikes that they are road testing on public roads sending out there?

[Grahameeboy]

So just how many here are in the habit of having avoidable accidents...?

I wet my pants once...does that count

[Drew]

I am what you would probably call a reckless rider. I have had a couple crashes on the road when I was riding pretty bloody fast. I put my hand up straight away and waived off any sympathy.

I have also had a couple crashes when I was taking it easy, (and I mean going VERY slow) on the same roads I normally punt on. I cannot for the life of me explain why I fell off on these occasions. One of which I had a group of bikers who normally wouldn't see which way I went asking themselves "what the fuck are you doing Drew? You're in the way".

I admit fault for all of my crashes, had I done things differently they simply wouldn't have happened. What do you suggest I do about the times I've gone down without the slightest idea of why Katman? Hmmm, what can I learn if I don't know what I did wrong? What the fuck could I say about them at all? "Sorry, I know it was my fault, we're just waitin for Steve to arrive to tell me how so".

Accidents do happen, there are unavoidable crashes, and your message delivery is fuckin shithouse.

Peace out.

[Katman]

What do you suggest I do about the times I've gone down without the slightest idea of why Katman?

Think harder.

[Flip]

And British cars are for homos (elton john) and royals (who are also gay)

Come here and say that!

Anybody would think I was a honda rider.

[Drew]

I wonder if that's something that motorcycle magazines need to consider.

Just what image is wheel standing bikes that they are road testing on public roads sending out there?

Oh for fuck sakes! You are sooooo fuckin dangerously close to the bubble wrap PC cunt bureaucrats pandering to minorities in this country right now.

How many fuckin accidents do you think there are per year, that cost anyone but the guy doing wheelies?

Does people learning to wheelie mean they lose some other skill for riding bikes? Is there a finite number of bike skills a brain can hold, and wheelies is one too many?

The image of bikers, to bikers? We each choose our own way to enjoy anything, there is much emulation I'm sure. But we all make our own fuckin choices. You are sooooo fuckin dangerously close to the bubble wrap PC cunt bureaucrats pandering to minorities

[Drew]

Think harder.

You don't think I have agonized over why my shiny pride and joy turned into a scratched up hack?

Think about this. It was avoidable yes. It was not however, possible to determine cause. Therefore fault, blame and accountability are moot.

[Katman]

Therefore fault, blame and accountability are moot.

How delightfully convenient.

[Flip]

Well I for one have never had an accident I could avoid however I have not been able to avoid all accidents successfully.

Does Kat understand that it is the successful management of the risks that makes motorcycling fun?

[Drew]

How delightfully convenient.

I find it less than delightfully INconvenient. I would love to know why it happened so that I could avoid it ever happening again. But since I can't, it can happen.

I agree that people need to harden up and take responsibility for their safety. 100%. No question.

But sometimes "shit happens". And it's your total lack of accepting that, that will have you totally ignored by more people than not.

[Katman]

Does Kat understand that it is the successful management of the risks that makes motorcycling fun?

Yeah, I understand that.

I hope you're not suggesting that having accidents is "successful management" though.

[motor_mayhem]

Hey KM

Can you clarify on your post about people at race tracks, do you mean the spectators who are leaving the race after having watched it, the racers who are leaving after having raced, or the racers when they are on the track?