General bitch (oops, I mean discussion) about bikers thread

[Edbear]

Right fuckin on Dude.
Just gets a bit too much when you enter almost any thread here and there he is ranting again. The one man band can almost turn a thread about knitting into a "how i should have avoided a crash"thread.
Simply irritating at the very least.

We have a knitting thread...?

[Beren]

Having all of 3 days riding experience I am already bloody lucky not to have had an accident. Actually blog number 2 will be brewing for the end of the week on the stupid blunders I have somehow survived so far without incident.

The thing is at the moment I don't know what my entry speed should be for corners - and I am learning in wet and windy conditions. I don't know how gingerly I should be using my road bike when some loverly bloke decides to dig up the road. I didn't know that the helmet the brother in-law gave me would be impossible to see out of at night. I never considered how much driving rain in your face could slow your mental processes down when it has been happening for nearly an hour. Or as this morning that when you breath out heavilly having just negotiated a corner really nicely that it will completely fog up your visor.

So when you sit up there on your high horse and pass judgement on people that havn't been on the road long and have an accident, that what would have been with your experience avoidable. Sod Off.

[Katman]

So when you sit up there on your high horse and pass judgement on people that havn't been on the road long and have an accident, that what would have been with your experience avoidable. Sod Off.

It sounds like you should be taking the learning experience a whole lot more gradually.

For the life of me I can't understand the need for new riders to take their brand new motorcycle license swimming with them in the deep end.

[bogan]

Having all of 3 days riding experience I am already bloody lucky not to have had an accident. Actually blog number 2 will be brewing for the end of the week on the stupid blunders I have somehow survived so far without incident.

The thing is at the moment I don't know what my entry speed should be for corners - and I am learning in wet and windy conditions. I don't know how gingerly I should be using my road bike when some loverly bloke decides to dig up the road. I didn't know that the helmet the brother in-law gave me would be impossible to see out of at night. I never considered how much driving rain in your face could slow your mental processes down when it has been happening for nearly an hour. Or as this morning that when you breath out heavilly having just negotiated a corner really nicely that it will completely fog up your visor.

So when you sit up there on your high horse and pass judgement on people that havn't been on the road long and have an accident, that what would have been with your experience avoidable. Sod Off.

Take it a bit easier, or get some training or something, no road user should be operating in such a way that they consider themselves lucky not to have had an accident after 3 days riding that shit is just reckless.
There is plenty out there, keith code's twist the wrist (at least i think that is the name) is a good read, and if you think it's getting dangerous, slow down or stop for a break.

[Ocean1]

It sounds like ...

Fucking useless.

Take it a bit easier, or ...

Moderately useful.



It's not really that difficult to spot the difference, is it?

[oneofsix]

Having all of 3 days riding experience I am already bloody lucky not to have had an accident. Actually blog number 2 will be brewing for the end of the week on the stupid blunders I have somehow survived so far without incident.

The thing is at the moment I don't know what my entry speed should be for corners - and I am learning in wet and windy conditions. I don't know how gingerly I should be using my road bike when some loverly bloke decides to dig up the road. I didn't know that the helmet the brother in-law gave me would be impossible to see out of at night. I never considered how much driving rain in your face could slow your mental processes down when it has been happening for nearly an hour. Or as this morning that when you breath out heavilly having just negotiated a corner really nicely that it will completely fog up your visor.

So when you sit up there on your high horse and pass judgement on people that havn't been on the road long and have an accident, that what would have been with your experience avoidable. Sod Off.

Lucky or glad you reacted appropriately?
The list you give are all things you have to learn and often aren't told. For older riders sometimes general experience fills in some of the gaps.
Personally I would recommend investing in a new helmet. I never like 2nd hand helmets, do you know if its been dropped, even on the floor, exposed to chemicals etc plus the lining has most likely conformed to his head shape. What about the fit? is it correct for you or just convenient?
Post your questions and most answers will be helpful, some can't help being judgmental but like trolls they can be ignored or you filter out the gold nuggets from their general dross.
If you think rain slows your mental processes beware the cold and it is also an affect of constantly battling the wind.

[Big Dave]

[MSTRS:Me]

Having all of 3 days riding experience I am already bloody lucky not to have had an accident. Actually blog number 2 will be brewing for the end of the week on the stupid blunders I have somehow survived so far without incident.

The thing is at the moment I don't know what my entry speed should be for corners - and I am learning in wet and windy conditions. I don't know how gingerly I should be using my road bike when some loverly bloke decides to dig up the road. I didn't know that the helmet the brother in-law gave me would be impossible to see out of at night. I never considered how much driving rain in your face could slow your mental processes down when it has been happening for nearly an hour. Or as this morning that when you breath out heavilly having just negotiated a corner really nicely that it will completely fog up your visor.

So when you sit up there on your high horse and pass judgement on people that havn't been on the road long and have an accident, that what would have been with your experience avoidable. Sod Off.

If you break a traffic regulation that you didn't know existed, you may still get a ticket for it.
In other words - do dumb shit, and there's often a price to be paid.
A 'bollocking' from KM is tame compared to some of the alternatives.
Some on here will give you long and involved advice on what you should do or have done.
KM will call you a cock for overstepping your experience/ability or for ignoring commonsense.
Both have their place in the learning curve that is motorcycling.

[Ender EnZed]

Having all of 3 days riding experience I am already bloody lucky not to have had an accident. Actually blog number 2 will be brewing for the end of the week on the stupid blunders I have somehow survived so far without incident.

The thing is at the moment I don't know what my entry speed should be for corners - and I am learning in wet and windy conditions. I don't know how gingerly I should be using my road bike when some loverly bloke decides to dig up the road. I didn't know that the helmet the brother in-law gave me would be impossible to see out of at night. I never considered how much driving rain in your face could slow your mental processes down when it has been happening for nearly an hour. Or as this morning that when you breath out heavilly having just negotiated a corner really nicely that it will completely fog up your visor.

Are you going for hour long rides in the rain just for the fun of it or to get to work? If the latter, you might want to consider practising at a quieter time of day and in better weather until you have a bit more experience.

So when you sit up there on your high horse and pass judgement on people that havn't been on the road long and have an accident, that what would have been with your experience avoidable. Sod Off.

Most people are more tolerant of errors when they're made by someone learning but at the end of the day your responsibility for your own safety does not vary with skill or experience.

[Beren]

It sounds like you should be taking the learning experience a whole lot more gradually.

For the life of me I can't understand the need for new riders to take their brand new motorcycle license swimming with them in the deep end.

I don't have that luxury. My bike is now my only form of transport. I live in rural KKK 60 odd k's from work.

Personally I would recommend investing in a new helmet.

Already done, made a world of difference.

The list you give are all things you have to learn and often aren't told

Ay hence the blog post.

Ok wasn't expecting that much reponse to a mild troll post I have already recieved a lot of really useful advice from folks on here - and I am going out on my first group ride with experienced KB'ers on Saturday so expect to learn a whole load more. Also just in case it was implied - the last part of my post was only pointed at those that decide to jump up and down on a point not make it once firmly and leave it.

[Eyegasm]

Hahahahahahaaaaa

Need a warning sign to "Here there be trolls"

[willytheekid]

I HAVE THE SOLUTION!....well...Katman does actually.

We can supply katman with some video cameras, and he can go out and show us ALL how it should be done, seeing as he IS the most amazing & professional SAFETY rider around.
Im very sure he can go out and film his awesome riding abilities and near god like powers of premonition to share with and educate us all.

.....ohh wait...thats right, as previously stated...he prefers to sit on the coro loop on weekends (no doubt in his car!) "watching" all the real riders apparently doing it all completely wrong

Katman...got no problem with your message....Even voted No in your "Self-promotion" thread (should Katman Shutup thread), but starting to develop a problem with the way you conduct yourself on a motorcyclists forum - "posing" as a biker with all the answers & knowledge, yet never offering actual solutions or real world advice...just kicking people when there down, or replying with smart-arsed self promoting comments.
Some of us "actually" ride there bikes (everyday!) - not there keyboards!

So come on!..prove us all wrong mr perfect.
--SHOW US SOME VIDEO FOOTAGE OF THE 'GOD' AT WORK--

I can't WAIT to watch this footage of the master at work.....I imagine Terbang and KatiePie etc can't either

-for edbear!

[Voltaire]

There is even a beer to go with it...[IMG][/IMG]

[MSTRS:Me]

Katman.. never offering actual solutions or real world advice...

Did it ever occur to you that he doesn't want to offer specific advice re any particular situation or crash - because he wasn't there and can't know what might have been done as an alternative to achieve a better outcome?

[oneofsix]

Did it ever occur to you that he doesn't want to offer specific advice re any particular situation or crash - because he wasn't there and can't know what might have been done as an alternative to achieve a better outcome?

then don't stick the boot in. Most of the rest of us seem to prefer to question and make suggestions as to what could have happened to try and improve the situation. To just harp on the the rider is in the wrong all the time is in itself wrong.