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    Hone versus Brash on Close Up

    On TV1 Close up now - very interesting to watch.

    For a non-local, does taghua (sp?) mean "shut up"?

    It is being said a lot.

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    tai hoa.

    It means wait a second.
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    I think Hone just summed it up though.

    It comes down to Rangatiratanga versus Kawanatanga.

    And until we decide which version of the treaty our country is based on we'll keep arguing about it.

    I wouldn't vote for either of them though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    It comes down to Rangatiratanga versus Kawanatanga.
    Well, that's what I've been saying for ages.

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    Hone is spanking him

    (Please note that the view above does not constitute an endorsement of either parties politics)
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post

    It comes down to Rangatiratanga versus Kawanatanga.
    Well in all of my six years in NZ I have not heard that before (and I have attempted - obviously rather badly - to understand all the treaty issues since I got here).

    That makes loads of sense, about the two translations of the same treaty. No wonder there is so much (lost) time and effort trying to sort it out.

    Must say though, from a personal point of view, that "the same rights for all" is the way NZ needs to go to actually progress in the modern world. Sort out the grievances, for once and all, and move on. Always focusing on the past is unhealthy.

    That said, I wouldn't vote for Brash - too hard line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schrodingers cat View Post
    Hone is spanking him

    (Please note that the view above does not constitute an endorsement of either parties politics)
    To keep it in context though, Brash could get spanked by questions from a primary school kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebleed View Post
    To keep it in context though, Brash could get spanked by questions from a primary school kid.
    Don Brash has never been good when it comes to debating. However, Hone the Wanker was born to argue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Don Brash has never been good when it comes to debating. However, Hone the Wanker was born to argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    I think Hone just summed it up though.

    It comes down to Rangatiratanga versus Kawanatanga.

    And until we decide which version of the treaty our country is based on we'll keep arguing about it.

    I wouldn't vote for either of them though.
    Well spotted that man!

    I will listen to what Brash (and the others) have to say ... before the election and then decide my vote, as usual.

    I will vote "NO" to MMP and "YES" to "STV" (if they actually give us that option)

    I thought Brash was naive fronting against (streetwise) Hone with a totally incompetent interviewer like Sainsbury controlling the "interview/debate/whatever?"!

    Hone took over the "debate" and ran it to his own agenda, while Brash was made to look like a court jester on steroids, even though he (Brash) talked the most sense!

    Don Brash should get a decent (short) haircut and personal presentation coach before he utters another word or shows his face in public again, let alone front in any debate! (currently not your best public image)

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    I didn't see tonight's show, but years ago when Brash was up against Clark on telly, his bumbling manner and old-world courtesies were popular with some.

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    Don't fret tho, bet both of them will forget to turn up and vote!
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    tai hoa.

    It means wait a second.
    Interestingly enough the only other person I've ever heard use the expression tai hoa was my dad. He used to use it quite a bit, from memory. Buggered if I know whether he had any Maori in him - don't think so - but it was weird hearing a Maori fulla say it so many times tonight!!


    Unfortunately I didn't get to see the whole debate as I had to go out, but it was for the first part I saw. Did it improve in the second part at all?

    Personally I don't like either of them very much, but was still open to hearing what they had to say. Sadly it just seemed to be pot kettle pot kettle pot...
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    I enjoyed how blunt Brash was." Do you believe that Maori have a place in Politics?". Answer? No. Or something along those lines. Can't remember exactly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivion View Post
    I enjoyed how blunt Brash was." Do you believe that Maori have a place in Politics?". Answer? No. Or something along those lines. Can't remember exactly..
    It was: Q "do you do believe Maori have a special place in this country?"
    A (after skipping a couple of heartbeats) "no"
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