The drink-drive war is won!

[RDJ]

And don't worry, don't bother to call us - we'll stop you on a road anywhere, anytime, all part of meeting the ticket quota

Fixed that for you.

[superman]

I don't understand this zero, does that mean I can't even have 1 beer 2 hours before driving? Or what exactly does this mean... at least with a small limit you'd know. But zero means what, I have a sip of my mums wine to try the taste and I get booked with a DUI?!

[bogan]

There will be in about 12 months ...

Is TPTB's evidence manufactory running a bit slow? Maybe it got worn out in 09/10

[Usarka]

I don't understand this zero, does that mean I can't even have 1 beer 2 hours before driving? Or what exactly does this mean... at least with a small limit you'd know. But zero means what, I have a sip of my mums wine to try the taste and I get booked with a DUI?!

Ah it's easy.

The rule of thumb currently is 2x 4% beers in the first hour and 1 beer every hour after that.

Now that you can't have any alcohol you need to work out how long it takes for the booze to leave your system, so the best bet is to have a drink say two hours before hand, go for a drive, get stopped by a cop and see if you're ok. Trial and error.

Oh, and don't have any trifle, and watch the aftershave and mouthwash!

[FJRider]

I don't understand this zero, does that mean I can't even have 1 beer 2 hours before driving? Or what exactly does this mean... at least with a small limit you'd know. But zero means what, I have a sip of my mums wine to try the taste and I get booked with a DUI?!

It's easy to figure out ... Drink zero amount of alcohol ... and you may pass ... ANY (other) reading is an instant fail ...

[superman]

Ah it's easy.

The rule of thumb currently is 2x 4% beers in the first hour and 1 beer every hour after that.

Now that you can't have any alcohol you need to work out how long it takes for the booze to leave your system, so the best bet is to have a drink say two hours before hand, go for a drive, get stopped by a cop and see if you're ok. Trial and error.

Oh, and don't have any trifle, and watch the aftershave and mouthwash!

This is just the best piece of legislation ever!

I might have to make it a point that I call the police station for advice everytime I go for a drive just incase I might have consumed a few molecules of alcohol. Wouldn't want to be breaking the law now would I.

"My mother cooks fondue with a large amount of wine and I'm afraid that all the alcohol may not have evaporated, could you please send out an officer with a breath tester so I can check whether I'm legal to drive or not".

You have registered 25 micrograms sir. Cough syrup Mr. Policeman sir. I'm afraid that's a loss of license. FUCK YOU BASTARDS!

Honestly laws like these make me want to commit crime in hate of society against youth. I'm sorry I'm inexperienced, I really just shouldn't of been born. FFS.

[Genestho]

I don't understand this zero, does that mean I can't even have 1 beer 2 hours before driving? Or what exactly does this mean... at least with a small limit you'd know. But zero means what, I have a sip of my mums wine to try the taste and I get booked with a DUI?!

If you're under 20, it means zero, apparently the testing devices are calibrated so substances like mouthwash, don't produce a positive result.

EDIT: Although reading through the Q and A's
There's a reference: What will happen if a young person is found to have a BAC between 0.00 and 0.03?
They will receive an infringement. This will be an infringement fee of $200 and 50 demerit points.

[Usarka]

You have registered 25 micrograms sir. Cough syrup Mr. Policeman sir. I'm afraid that's a loss of license. FUCK YOU BASTARDS!

Honestly laws like these make me want to commit crime in hate of society against youth. I'm sorry I'm inexperienced, I really just shouldn't of been born. FFS.

Don't worry dude, the cops will use discretion if that's the case (cough-cough-bullshit-they-charge-everyone-and-say-it's-up-to-the-courts-to-decide-except-when-it's-another-cop-cough-cough).

I needs some cough syrup!

[superman]

Found this somewhere:-

"However, alcohol is present in small amounts in a number of foods, soft-drinks and medicines. Small amounts may also be generated within the body. Furthermore, no measuring device can be 100% accurate. Therefore, it is recommended that a cut off level of at least 100 micrograms of alcohol per litre of breath is used where a zero tolerance policy is in place."

So the limit is 100 micrograms not zero according to this in order to be fair, the limit before zero tolerance kicks in for under 20s is currently at a scaringly high 150 micrograms. Go figure, bloody knobs.

For comparison 150micrograms is approximately 1 beer (4.5% alcohol) for an adult male. This is what I have always based it on, I never would drive after more than one. But fuck me if I can't have one bloody beer and drive, you give me a beer and put me up against the average Auckland driver and I will wipe the fucking floor with hazard detection/avoidence and focus. (But maybe that's just the one beer intoxication speaking...)

[scumdog]

This is just the best piece of legislation ever!

I might have to make it a point that I call the police station for advice everytime I go for a drive just incase I might have consumed a few molecules of alcohol. Wouldn't want to be breaking the law now would I.

"My mother cooks fondue with a large amount of wine and I'm afraid that all the alcohol may not have evaporated, could you please send out an officer with a breath tester so I can check whether I'm legal to drive or not".

You have registered 25 micrograms sir. Cough syrup Mr. Policeman sir. I'm afraid that's a loss of license. FUCK YOU BASTARDS!

Honestly laws like these make me want to commit crime in hate of society against youth. I'm sorry I'm inexperienced, I really just shouldn't of been born. FFS.

Waaaa, bawl me fuckin' eyes out cos I can't take cough mixture and drive...waaaaaah, the world ain't fair....waaah,.... does this post make you look like a juvie or what???

So you KNOW exactly how the new legislation is going to be worded?, how the tests are going to be conducted? how it's going to be enforced? how it's...I didn't fuckin' think so.

FWIW: Drink drivers can't count anyway.

ME: "So you've blown a reading of 456 sir, how much do you think you've you had to drink tonight?"
EBA subject:"Aw, about two, maybe three stubbies"
MY thought: "pfft, as-if".

ME "So you've blown a reading of 1014 sir, how much do you think you've had to drink tonight?"
EBA subject: "Aw, I shuposhe 'bout three drinksh, nushin' more..'
MY thought: "Does this efwit REALLY think I'm going to believe he's telling the truth and the breath-test is faulty?"

SO, it seems the standard amount of alcohol drunk by EBA subjects is 'about three drinks' regardless of the breath test result.

RE the new legislation?
My GUESS is that the new legislation will be that you MAY well fail the roadside screening test, ( I'm not talking about the 'say your name into the device sir' bit, THAT bit would show 'fail' from any alcohol on your person or just about from fumes in the car, hence the screening test!) and would then have to go back for an evidential test at the station or wherever, just like at present.

And then the evidential test device would be calibrated to show zero (and that's my GUESS bit) UNLESS you give a reading in excess of XXX amount which would be an amount that would indicate you had actually drunk some alcohol in a bigger amount than a sip of cough mixture etc.

Oh, and unless you blew in excess of 650 you would have to go to Court before anybody said 'that's a loss of licence'.

Chill out
Cheer up
Grow up.

[scumdog]

For comparison 150micrograms is approximately 1 beer (4.5% alcohol) for an adult male.

MY non-conclusive unscientific test using ME as the subject?
Three quart bottles of beer (none of this boyish 'stubbie' crap, - pfft, were they invented for limp-wristed people that didn't have the strength to hold a proper bottle up to their mouth?) in just over an hour and a half, waited 30 minutes, tested myself and then blew 363.

But no way would I have thought I was fit to drive

"Other results may vary, do not try this at home"

[Scuba_Steve]

MY non-conclusive unscientific test using ME as the subject?
Three quart bottles of beer (none of this boyish 'stubbie' crap, - pfft, were they invented for limp-wristed people that didn't have the strength to hold a proper bottle up to their mouth?) in just over an hour and a half, waited 30 minutes, tested myself and then blew 363.

But no way would I have thought I was fit to drive

"Other results may vary, do not try this at home"

Booze tends to go through 3 stages.
1st stage: A couple you feel good 2 drive & can drive,
2nd stage: couple more you don't feel good to drive but still legal to drive (this is the point you should decide to stop now or give up the drive)
3rd stage: you feel good to drive again but are now over the limit & shouldn't be on the road

Now this is a general rule & won't suit/represent absolutely everyone so don't go taking as gospel but this tends to be how the 3 stages of booze & driving works.

But personally a couple of things that could help people like me trying to limit would be every RTD/beer (can/bottle std size) be limited to 1std drink per can/bottle & every bar/pub have to have a free breath test machine. All limiting drink laws do is screw over legit people & put the drunk drivers further over the limit nothing more.

[Berries]

But personally a couple of things that could help people like me trying to limit would be every RTD/beer (can/bottle std size) be limited to 1std drink per can/bottle & every bar/pub have to have a free breath test machine.

Would be good if it worked, but if it gives a slightly different answer to the Police machines then it would cause no end of trouble. Then there are people who will use it, see they are under so have another, and the fact that alcohol takes time to get in the blood. You could be under the limit when you leave but over the limit by the time you find your keys and get your helmet on the right way round.

[bogan]

Would be good if it worked, but if it gives a slightly different answer to the Police machines then it would cause no end of trouble. Then there are people who will use it, see they are under so have another, and the fact that alcohol takes time to get in the blood. You could be under the limit when you leave but over the limit by the time you find your keys and get your helmet on the right way round.

Also it's my understanding that it aint a light switch, even those under the limit are still impaired (just not as much), rather not have everyone leaving the pub just under the limit. Which is pretty fucking high as it is.

[Scuba_Steve]

Also it's my understanding that it aint a light switch, even those under the limit are still impaired (just not as much), rather not have everyone leaving the pub just under the limit. Which is pretty fucking high as it is.

yea there is that plus I guess the biggest prob is a straight line in the sand doesn't really work as half the people on the road nowadays are worse drivers sober than I would be shitfaced yet they're still allowed on the road let alone the same drink limit as me