Which 250 sports bike?

[Beren]

What sort of money are you looking to spend?
There some fantastic buying on TM atm (250 Ninja wise)

Yup and with the EFI out I bet there are going to be some VERY good deals to be had on dealership bikes without it..

[stifmyster1]

At the moment i am looking to be new(ish) from a dealer. Not neccesarily brand spanking this years model new. but new warranty and no previous owners.

Took a test ride on the Hyosung today and to be honest it rode better than the Ninja did. In the Ninja the shifting was rather difficult and i had to be in 5th to do 60kph. The hyosung sat at 60kph quite sensibly in 3rd. It handled well for the bigger size. not as nimble as the ninja but handles brilliantly none the less. my only annoyance is the placement on the stand. It is pretty much right under the footpeg meaning it takes a bit to get it down. But other than that i loved the ride. The acceleration was very smoot and it is a fair bit louder than the ninja but its a natural sound. where as the Ninja sounds like its been artificially made to sound a particular way if you know what i mean.

and on the fuel note. The Ninja is using parralel twin engine instead of V-twin and is carburated instead of fuel injection so there most likely will be some difference but as to whether is noticable week by week im not sure.

Oh. Im looking to spend about 7-8k. I can trade my GN250 in for $2000 unless someone else offersme more and i have $500 saved up. and that works out to about 45-55 a week for 2-3 years. The biggest difference is hyosung will give me accessories and make it easier to move up to a bigger bike when i get my full where as kawasaki will just sell the bike.

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At the moment i am looking to be new(ish) from a dealer. Not neccesarily brand spanking this years model new. but new warranty and no previous owners.

Took a test ride on the Hyosung today and to be honest it rode better than the Ninja did. In the Ninja the shifting was rather difficult and i had to be in 5th to do 60kph. The hyosung sat at 60kph quite sensibly in 3rd. It handled well for the bigger size. not as nimble as the ninja but handles brilliantly none the less. my only annoyance is the placement on the stand. It is pretty much right under the footpeg meaning it takes a bit to get it down. But other than that i loved the ride. The acceleration was very smoot and it is a fair bit louder than the ninja but its a natural sound. where as the Ninja sounds like its been artificially made to sound a particular way if you know what i mean.

and on the fuel note. The Ninja is using parralel twin engine instead of V-twin and is carburated instead of fuel injection so there most likely will be some difference but as to whether is noticable week by week im not sure.

Oh. Im looking to spend about 7-8k. I can trade my GN250 in for $2000 unless someone else offersme more and i have $500 saved up. and that works out to about 45-55 a week for 2-3 years. The biggest difference is hyosung will give me accessories and make it easier to move up to a bigger bike when i get my full where as kawasaki will just sell the bike.

Well at the end of the day it is going to be your bike, so the decision is up to you. Get what you think looks/feels right, don't feel pressured to buy something you don't 100% want.

[Chancebmx25]

dnt get new shit the new shits worse then the old shit. get a cbr thats westy_mate fella has mint cbr that you can go nuts on. it takes alot to do over a mc19. u should really just look at motors and how they work and then suss it out urself. dont judge something just cos its second hand, the new shit sucks. its all governed and its just rubbish. shit cost heaps to replace on the new paku, ur better of with a nice old cbr250r or rr. they look sweet. u actually kinda needa get on one and ride it for a week or so. ull realise how much better it is. if u dnt wanna work on something all the time. own something that u can js wash and nt worry about it. leave in the rain. then get a cbr. thea a hardbike to do over unless u just thrash it into a wall and write it off or something.

[Chancebmx25]

It was a ZXR, not a GPX. there was also an 08/09 'ninja' 250 on that board as well. and yesm for a near 10 HP difference between the two, I was surprised. DM's bike did well, but its got fuckall kms on it, and he has been the most pedantic 9to the point of being fuckin annoying) cunt about maintaining it that its no surprise it had a great readout


uh-huh. so why were they generally considered as the best learner bike by a huge portion of the biking population for about the last 20 years?
Not everyone wants to constantly rebuild their bike and worry about putting oil in every couple hundred kms etc.

thats the fuhn of being into motoz. gn250s must be so boring just looking at it in the garage and then riding at like 50k an hour. how boring. but in the end user preference i spose so yeah. gn250 great learner bike cos they get no wea. they are js sloww. lol

[Westy_mate]

dnt get new shit the new shits worse then the old shit. get a cbr thats westy_mate fella has mint cbr that you can go nuts on. it takes alot to do over a mc19. u should really just look at motors and how they work and then suss it out urself. dont judge something just cos its second hand, the new shit sucks. its all governed and its just rubbish. shit cost heaps to replace on the new paku, ur better of with a nice old cbr250r or rr. they look sweet. u actually kinda needa get on one and ride it for a week or so. ull realise how much better it is. if u dnt wanna work on something all the time. own something that u can js wash and nt worry about it. leave in the rain. then get a cbr. thea a hardbike to do over unless u just thrash it into a wall and write it off or something.

haha thanks mate! come to think of it i dont think my bike has ever been left out in the rain. i dont even think its been left after riding in the rain, i always clean it after..

[DrunkenMistake]

Look dude,

Ignore what all these cunts say, most of them are nailing it on the money, at the end of the day, This bike will be yours and yours alone, so dont get one that is a little bit better than the other because someone told you it was,
Get one you are comfortable on, get one that is in good nick, lowish km and within or a little under your budget, after all realistly your going to own this bike another.. Year.. 6 months? You dont want to sink a whole lot of your money into an older bike (no offence here Westy) but one like Westy's, they are great bikes but they take alot of maintaining and some of them are nothing more than money pits, if you do go for an older bike like the CBR's go for one thats stock and original and in real tidy order, in 5 years time they will be worth that little bit more, and they are just overall fun little bikes.
You sounded like you were pretty keen on the Ninja, dont worry about the pack rack shit for now, You can get them for one and you can get them cheap if you look hard enough, you can even modify one off your GN im sure, just revert to a back pack untill you can afford one or whatever the case is,
Ignore that speed in a straight line shit either, face the fact its a 250, over taking anyone is incredibly hard and takes a lot of time etc etc, unless your a crazy prick like myself and get moments of Adrenalin bullet proof mode.
Bikes are made for Corners and made to be fun and relaxed and something you can look at and think, "Fuck yeah, thats my bike, and its the fucking shit!".

Make a list of your possible bikes, take them for a twirl and decide on one you like the most, and then go out and try find one a little bit cheaper or a little bit tidier whatever it may be.
Just make sure YOUR happy with it man, if you narrow down a list of say Ninja's that are you interested then post up some links or photos of them and ask people their opinion as to which is the better one to buy, (If its a Ninja you decide you want in the end, just using it as an example)

There is my small rant/advice/2cents haha. Good luck and keep it up.

[Westy_mate]

Look dude,

Ignore what all these cunts say, most of them are nailing it on the money, at the end of the day, This bike will be yours and yours alone, so dont get one that is a little bit better than the other because someone told you it was,
Get one you are comfortable on, get one that is in good nick, lowish km and within or a little under your budget, after all realistly your going to own this bike another.. Year.. 6 months? You dont want to sink a whole lot of your money into an older bike (no offence here Westy) but one like Westy's, they are great bikes but they take alot of maintaining and some of them are nothing more than money pits, if you do go for an older bike like the CBR's go for one thats stock and original and in real tidy order, in 5 years time they will be worth that little bit more, and they are just overall fun little bikes.
You sounded like you were pretty keen on the Ninja, dont worry about the pack rack shit for now, You can get them for one and you can get them cheap if you look hard enough, you can even modify one off your GN im sure, just revert to a back pack untill you can afford one or whatever the case is,
Ignore that speed in a straight line shit either, face the fact its a 250, over taking anyone is incredibly hard and takes a lot of time etc etc, unless your a crazy prick like myself and get moments of Adrenalin bullet proof mode.
Bikes are made for Corners and made to be fun and relaxed and something you can look at and think, "Fuck yeah, thats my bike, and its the fucking shit!".

Make a list of your possible bikes, take them for a twirl and decide on one you like the most, and then go out and try find one a little bit cheaper or a little bit tidier whatever it may be.
Just make sure YOUR happy with it man, if you narrow down a list of say Ninja's that are you interested then post up some links or photos of them and ask people their opinion as to which is the better one to buy, (If its a Ninja you decide you want in the end, just using it as an example)

There is my small rant/advice/2cents haha. Good luck and keep it up.

1. I dont appreciate you talking down about my bike. it is NOT a money pit and is VERY clean and completely stock besides the fairings which i still have.

2. what im asking for my bike is well below his budget, and will cost him LESS to maintain than a ninja or a Hyo. i would always choose a well maintained older bike, again provided it IS well maintained.

Other than that i agree with you, comes down to what you like best mate

[DrunkenMistake]

1. I dont appreciate you talking down about my bike. it is NOT a money pit and is VERY clean and completely stock besides the fairings which i still have.

2. what im asking for my bike is well below his budget, and will cost him LESS to maintain than a ninja or a Hyo. i would always choose a well maintained older bike, again provided it IS well maintained.

Other than that i agree with you, comes down to what you like best mate

Before you get your knickers in a twist Read it again,

I dont appreciation muppets who dont read a full post and jump ahead and miss the information,

I dislike having to quote my own post but here you go,

You dont want to sink a whole lot of your money into an older bike (no offence here Westy) but one like Westy's, they are great bikes but they take alot of maintaining and some of them are nothing more than money pits

1. I dont appreciate you talking down about my bike. it is NOT a money pit and is VERY clean and completely stock besides the fairings which i still have.

I used your bike as an example because you supplied a link to it so he can clearly see what it is and what they are like, That was fairly obvious, and besides using your bike as a reference I didnt talk down your bike.

[jaffaonajappa]

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The power to weight ratio law will be coming into effect soon, consider getting a GS500.

+1.

And cops are already willing, if talked to nicely, consider the hp/weight common-sense issue already. But judges and insurance people are not. yet.

[DMNTD:Me]

And cops are already willing, if talked to nicely, consider the hp/weight common-sense issue already. But judges and insurance people are not. yet.

I've yet to hear a solid date on when this MAY (prolly will) happen.

[DrunkenMistake]

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+1.

And cops are already willing, if talked to nicely, consider the hp/weight common-sense issue already. But judges and insurance people are not. yet.

Agreed, if you get a bigger bike be warned some insurance companies like to insure you by keeping themselves in the 'dark' so not asking you to provide license details, so they can decline you insurance on the basis that you are not legally allowed to drive it,
I have my VFR 400 and im on my R and I have full insurance and I have fully declared my license ID number and that I am on my R .. well L at the time and they covered me full insurance,
And as for the cop issue, its basic - Dont act like a fuckwit = wont be treated like one.

[GrayWolf]

1. I dont appreciate you talking down about my bike. it is NOT a money pit and is VERY clean and completely stock besides the fairings which i still have.
2. what im asking for my bike is well below his budget, and will cost him LESS to maintain than a ninja or a Hyo. i would always choose a well maintained older bike, again provided it IS well maintained.

actualy it WILL cost more to maintain than a twin, go and ask your local dealer the cost for a 'C' (major) service for a twin and a four pot. Regardless of excellent condition or not, high performance vehicles will always be more costly to run and the cbr-rr IS a high performance machine for a 250.

dnt get new shit the new shits worse then the old shit. get a cbr thats westy_mate fella has mint cbr that you can go nuts on. it takes alot to do over a mc19. dont judge something just cos its second hand, the new shit sucks. its all governed and its just rubbish. shit cost heaps to replace on the new paku, ur better of with a nice old cbr250r or rr. they look sweet. u actually kinda needa get on one and ride it for a week or so. ull realise how much better it is. if u dnt wanna work on something all the time. own something that u can js wash and nt worry about it. leave in the rain. then get a cbr. thea a hardbike to do over unless u just thrash it into a wall and write it off or something.

In reality, the above post is EXACTLY why you should be afraid, be VERY afraid, when buying a s/hand sports 250

Interpretation,,, go nuts on... thrash the fuck out of it
takes a lot to do over a mc19.... the fuck HAS been thrashed out of it regularly
shit costs heaps to replace..... uses patern parts, cheapo oil, and doesnt get fully serviced
wash and jus leave it in the rain....... says it all
hardbike to do over unless you thrash it into a wall.... THRASH says it all really.

[Chancebmx25]

actualy it WILL cost more to maintain than a twin, go and ask your local dealer the cost for a 'C' (major) service for a twin and a four pot. Regardless of excellent condition or not, high performance vehicles will always be more costly to run and the cbr-rr IS a high performance machine for a 250.



In reality, the above post is EXACTLY why you should be afraid, be VERY afraid, when buying a s/hand sports 250

Interpretation,,, go nuts on... thrash the fuck out of it
takes a lot to do over a mc19.... the fuck HAS been thrashed out of it regularly
shit costs heaps to replace..... uses patern parts, cheapo oil, and doesnt get fully serviced
wash and jus leave it in the rain....... says it all
hardbike to do over unless you thrash it into a wall.... THRASH says it all really.

its a 250 for crying out loud. unless you own a high performance 250 that you personally know how everything goes together and works etc. then its a different story. But if you own something else. like half the other 250's out there. just burn it uhp. thea little bikes its not like ur racing or anything man fuck come on. Just get something cheap and nasty when it dies it dies but trust me takes a lot for it to die. in regard to the cbr being unbreakable. unless ur an enthusiast with ur 250's then get something u want to project thatll better you in the long run. but as for all the other rubbish 250s out thea. the cbr stands out from the all. but man come on its a 250. not like your buying a 600 or something.

[John_H]

if you get a good one then yes. if you dont they are a overpriced money pit. Performance means nothing under 100HP. get a modern , trouble free 250.

Completely agree.