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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Generally moving ass over like that wouldn't cause a wobble I think. Is your outside arm loose? One of the other major tips was to have only the inside arm controlling the bars, so you don't get too tense and be pushing on both at the same time. Always a good plan is to ease into new techniques, take it slowly while you get comfortable doing things in the new way, then if you go faster you get good feel, it may be that you don't instinctively know how to deal with bumps on that sort of lean angle an position yet. Those are just my thoughts anyway, better for you to get a book or training, then diagnose what is going on yourself.
    Yea im keeping my arms loose too, someone had said that my rear shock may need adjusting as it may not be operating at the sweet spot during corners so that's something to get looked at, only happens in a few corners though other than that it's fine so i guess i just have to work at it with trial and error and diagnose the situation. Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    So is keith code's twist of the wrist.
    I am reading that at the moment - slowly and trying to absorb the lessons one at a time...
    Not really the same as a boat (unless there are countersteering ones?) as the weight shift in this case isn't to keep it from flipping, but to ensure the suspension is at the best working angle, and that there is sufficient ground clearance between the ground and hardpoints; which in turn keeps it upright!
    - Actually it is more than you might think, keeping the boat from flipping is disaster avoidance rather than the real point of hanging off the side. You lean on a boat to keep the boat more upright so that the sail is catching more wind and as the keel is biting deeper the boat points higher into the wind therefore everything is working more efficiently and you can go faster... just as I assume you are keeping the bike further upright to maximise tyre contact and therefore traction in the corner and available power to drive out of it. Oh and if you are using a tiller you push away from the direction you want to turn, so very VERY loosely you are countersteering too... see flawless analogy

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Singing Chef View Post
    only happens in a few corners though other than that it's fine so i guess i just have to work at it with trial and error and diagnose the situation.
    Go easy on the error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Singing Chef View Post
    Yea im keeping my arms loose too, someone had said that my rear shock may need adjusting as it may not be operating at the sweet spot during corners so that's something to get looked at, only happens in a few corners though other than that it's fine so i guess i just have to work at it with trial and error and diagnose the situation. Cheers
    If it has adjustable spring preload, set the sag correctly, if you have the tools to set it, and a mate with a measuring tape it's really easy to do, and may sort your problem out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beren View Post
    I am reading that at the moment - slowly and trying to absorb the lessons one at a time...
    - Actually it is more than you might think, keeping the boat from flipping is disaster avoidance rather than the real point of hanging off the side. You lean on a boat to keep the boat more upright so that the sail is catching more wind and as the keel is biting deeper the boat points higher into the wind therefore everything is working more efficiently and you can go faster... just as I assume you are keeping the bike further upright to maximise tyre contact and therefore traction in the corner and available power to drive out of it. Oh and if you are using a tiller you push away from the direction you want to turn, so very VERY loosely you are countersteering too... see flawless analogy
    Ok, maybe it is a decent analogy, too much water for my liking though
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Ok, maybe it is a decent analogy, too much water for my liking though
    LOL - There is too much water about most mornings for me to experiment with hanging off the side of me bike too! Will start slow with that one methinks ( Unless it's another of those things I am already doing a bit naturally...)

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