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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    98% of my riding is rural. I rode 700km on Southland roads last Saturday. And yes, I've seen the current state of Gore. Last time I rode through my biggest concern was the 8 year old girl who stood in the middle of the road and stared me down from 200m. Fucking weird. Buy hey, it's Gore. You can expect these things, much like cow shit on rural roads.

    My position is not that nothing should be done about it but that it doesn't need to ruin anyone's ride and it shouldn't come as a surprise. A campaign to have current laws enforced and remove an unnecessary hazard from the roads might get somewhere. Whinging about how disgusting cow shit is will only earn you the contempt of those who have to work with it all the time.
    Makes me wonder why you are stopping to talk to young girls in our town. As i have said earlier, I work most of my day in cowshit,just part of the job. What i dont like is having it spread all around our town, and on parts of our roads that become dangerous to ALL motorists, not just riders. No body I have talked to from council,police or trucking companys seem all that interested and I think they should be. I would like to see some changes made to put a halt to it,and if that means people are going to have contempt for me,so be it. That is something I am willing to put up with to acheive my goal.
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    Sadly I think there won't be any action until there is a well publicized DEATH of a mum and her 3 kids when their cage hits a slick of cow shit on a corner and they careen into a plot of trees. That's how things work in our Knee-jerk reaction country...
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    Quote Originally Posted by matdaymon View Post
    Sadly I think there won't be any action until there is a well publicized DEATH of a mum and her 3 kids when their cage hits a slick of cow shit on a corner and they careen into a plot of trees. That's how things work in our Knee-jerk reaction country...
    No no no...
    It'll be because she was speeding and not driving to the conditions.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matdaymon View Post
    Sadly I think there won't be any action until there is a well publicized DEATH of a mum and her 3 kids when their cage hits a slick of cow shit on a corner and they careen into a plot of trees. That's how things work in our Knee-jerk reaction country...
    Concur!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebleed View Post
    All the while knowing that the work that I do within the heavily regulated and scrutinised industry with which I work, conforms.
    The industry that matters in this instance is obviously not heavily regulated and scrutinised.

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    i put the effort in to comply, as do the people that work with me and for me, and if we miss something we pay the price.
    No shit.

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    I just leave the dump valve open on my stock truck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    The industry that matters in this instance is obviously not heavily regulated and scrutinised.
    The argument being that they should be. The fact that they blatantly disregard what rules there are re effluent is grounds enough for a shake-up. But no cunt is interested...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carver View Post
    I just leave the dump valve open on my stock truck
    I hope you give the cows a feed of prunes, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    The industry that matters in this instance is obviously not heavily regulated and scrutinised.
    Meet the thin edge of the wedge...

    Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
    I wonder if this part of the act could be used to penalise those trucking companys that don't follow the guide lines.

    Land Transport Act 1998 No 110 (as at 01 May 2011), Public Act

    36A Contravention of section 22A


    (1) A person commits an offence if the person—

    (a) operates a motor vehicle in a race, or in an unnecessary exhibition of speed or acceleration, on a road in contravention of section 22A(1); or


    (b) without reasonable excuse, intentionally pours onto, places on, or allows to spill onto a road—

    (i) any petrol, oil, or diesel fuel; or


    (ii) any other substance likely to cause a vehicle to undergo loss of traction; or



    (c) without reasonable excuse, operates a motor vehicle on a road in a manner that causes the vehicle to undergo sustained loss of traction in contravention of section 22A(3).



    (2) A person commits an indictable offence if the person commits an offence against subsection (1)(a) or (c), and by that act or omission causes an injury to or the death of another person.


    (3) A person who commits an offence against subsection (1)(a) or (c) that is an indictable offence is liable to the penalties set out in section 36(2), and section 36(2) and (3) apply as if the offence were an offence against section 36(1)(a) (such as operating a motor vehicle recklessly on a road, and by that act or omission causing an injury to or the death of another person).


    (4) A person who commits an offence against subsection (1)(a) or (c) that is not an indictable offence is liable to the penalties set out in section 35(2), and section 35(2) and (3) apply as if the offence were an offence against section 35(1)(a) (operating a motor vehicle recklessly on a road).


    (5) A person who commits an offence against subsection (1)(b) is liable to a fine not exceeding $3,000.

    Section 36A: inserted, on 2 May 2003, by section 6 of the Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Act 2003 (2003 No 11)."

    or can it only be applied during illegal street racing???
    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    The argument being that they should be. The fact that they blatantly disregard what rules there are re effluent is grounds enough for a shake-up. But no cunt is interested...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKiwi View Post
    Just announced today


    Operation Green Line
    Operation Green Line’ coincides with the start of the ‘gypsy’ season, a two-month period across June and July when large numbers of stock are shifted from farm to farm.

    MOTO NZ Chairperson, Dr Gareth Morgan, says although progress has been made on this issue it remains too common a hazard for road users and for motorcyclists it’s particularly dangerous.

    We are launching an appeal to all road users to report spillages. “It’s not a case of dobbing in farmers or truck drivers – we’re after better data on the extent and location of these problems so we can work with the livestock industry to improve compliance with the guidelines,” says Morgan.

    Motorcyclists – and car drivers - are encouraged to report any effluent spills by texting DUNG to 244 or they can go to the MOTO NZ website www.motonz.org.nz and file a quick report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    Whinging about how disgusting cow shit is will only earn you the contempt of those who have to work with it all the time.
    Amen to that. We are too small a country for some of you to think you are elite and immune from the grit of real life. I suppose many think milk is made in factories.

    For goodness sake, its cow dung. It washes away with the rain. Ride/drive a little slower for the few days stock are being trucked. The drivers can't know if the animals have emptied and they have work to get on with.

    Honestly this is a pitiful prissy conversation.

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    I guess a tit puller would think that. Not only are dairy farmers fucking up the rivers with polution,and soil with compaction.Now they are saying it is okay to ruin roads and the rest of us should get over it. What a bunch of narrow minded tossers, I love going to work and listening to you guys whinge about how tough things are and telling you to get the fuck over yourselves,makes my day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carver View Post
    I just leave the dump valve open on my stock truck
    Hmm, that's ONE description of you standing there with your mouth hanging open...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    My position is not that nothing should be done about it but that it doesn't need to ruin anyone's ride and it shouldn't come as a surprise.

    I am NEVER surprised by cow shit on the road, it is a simple fact of life on rural roads, like I said I have been writing letters and complaining about it for many years. As far as ruining someones ride goes, I will give you two examples of just how cowshit on the road can ruin your ride, no crashes had, but horrible ride all the same.

    One route to work, no alternatives, well technically not true, but an additonal 40 odd kms of metal roads, when I need to travel 15 on my trip to work is not really an option. Wet roads, the kind of wet that means the vehicle in front throws up water from the rear tyres. Following a stock truck, getting sprayed with a fine stream of diluted cow shit. Cant see, cant breathe, dare not open my visor, drop right back, and follow this disgusting thing, no choices, I have to get to work. Arrive at work liberally coated with cowshit, all my gear is green and it stinks! I have to leave it outside, for I cant bring it in to drip shit on the floor at work.

    That ruined that trip in a big way I can assure you, and is only one of the hundreds of times I have come up against a similar thing.

    The one that prompted this thread, is even worse in my eyes, though I never are shit. Night time. Commuting home. Once again taking the only realistic route for me. It has been raining, the roads are wet. I smell strong, fresh cowshit! I cant see it, it is dark, but I can smell it. Where is it? Bound to be uphill here? Notorious place for accidents, I slow right down, anticipating running into the green slime anytime soon. Nope, all good. You get the picture, horrible commute home, completely ruined my ride. The shit was actually on the other side of the road, the truck was heading south! I got to avoid his green trail in the morning on my way to work.

    Cow shitand piss is dangerous, there are laws that should prevent it from being spewed out on the roads. It does ruin rides, it ruins health, and the fact it appears to be ignored needs to be addressed.

    I agree, whinging wont fix things, want to put your had up to help me make a real stand against this shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    It's not intentional.

    Also, cows shit. Get the fuck over it and ride accordingly.
    Thats kinda how i see it too. Plenty of other things goin on that need attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
    By not controling it, when there is technology avaliable to do so it is intentional.

    Fortunately the behaviour of "that’s the way it's been done for decades" has changed in a lot of industries, leading to improvements in health and safety for both those in the industry, and those affected by it. Unfortunately a minority in the livestock/transport industry don't seem to be able to move into modern times where slack practices need to be changed.
    I would say 99% of all stock transporters abide by the reg's, as they would not have TSL licences if they didn't. They can't get COF's if they don't comply.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    At times it is, its not always caused by gravity.
    Thats why there are stock effluent dump stations around...so the driver can dump the shit slop ...'intentionally'.
    But, time is money and why stop when you can slip it out the back...when no one is looking.
    very much doubt that they would even consider this. In most occasions the crap that gets thrown out is the stuff that is being dispersed on the journey that spews straight out the side of the crates. There is no cure for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Amen to that. We are too small a country for some of you to think you are elite and immune from the grit of real life. I suppose many think milk is made in factories.

    For goodness sake, its cow dung. It washes away with the rain. Ride/drive a little slower for the few days stock are being trucked. The drivers can't know if the animals have emptied and they have work to get on with.

    Honestly this is a pitiful prissy conversation.
    Couldn't agree more. How many times do we have to hear the rant about '"ride accordingly". I tend to stay back and then when there is a decent gap i overtake. No problem!

    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    I guess a tit puller would think that. Not only are dairy farmers fucking up the rivers with polution,and soil with compaction.Now they are saying it is okay to ruin roads and the rest of us should get over it. What a bunch of narrow minded tossers, I love going to work and listening to you guys whinge about how tough things are and telling you to get the fuck over yourselves,makes my day.
    There is literally thousands of diary farmers in this country and all but a small handful that have issues with erosion etc. without them and their industry many of us wouldn't have jobs, but you can sit back in your air conditioned office and drink water and eat lettuce (no milk or cheese) and criticize all you like if you want. Your talking about the largest export industry in the country, but i believe you know nothing about what you speak of.
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