Destiny Church gets $860,000

[Swoop]

Do they not pay tax now????

"Religious establishments" do not contribute to the government's coffers.
destiny is a cult, anyway. Start coughing up some tax dollars Mr Tamaki.

[Woodman]

"Religious establishments" do not contribute to the government's coffers.
destiny is a cult, anyway. Start coughing up some tax dollars Mr Tamaki.

For fuck sake!!! What sort of society are we living in?? How have they got away with this?
Churches are a business (nothing more) just like any other money making establishment therefore should be on the same level playing field as the rest of us.

[nathanwhite]

How have they got away with this?
Churches are a business (nothing more) just like any other money making establishment therefore should be on the same level playing field as the rest of us.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...tiny-projects/

read the article. The herald one doesn't say this, but the money didn't go directly to the church or brian's pockets, it went to their programmes to develop/better the community.

Sure no one likes their methods, but at least that money can only go back out to the community.

[Bald Eagle]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...tiny-projects/

read the article. The herald one doesn't say this, but the money didn't go directly to the church or brian's pockets, it went to their programmes to develop/better the community.

Sure no one likes their methods, but at least that money can only go back out to the community.

Less the usual management overheads of course.

[nathanwhite]

of course.

But that's what? a few thousand at the most?

[Bald Eagle]

of course.

But that's what? a few thousand at the most?

what's left you mean

[nathanwhite]

i wonder if anyone here knows someone who knows someone who works at destiny...get them to tell us how much money actually comes out of that institute....

[Grasshopperus]

Who the hell voted for the morons who are dishing out these tax dollars? IMO, these are the ones responsible for this stupidity.

Well that's you too because you voted didn't you? Oh wait you're overseas. Bustard!

[Woodman]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...tiny-projects/

read the article. The herald one doesn't say this, but the money didn't go directly to the church or brian's pockets, it went to their programmes to develop/better the community.

Sure no one likes their methods, but at least that money can only go back out to the community.

Don't have a problem if Destiny gets deadbeats off the streets /drugs or out of prison etc, but what I do object to and its a bit off topic, is that (if)churches get tax exemptions because their business is somehow different to other customer service businesses.

BTW don't go on too much about it cos religion gets treated different on here too.

[Winston001]

Don't have a problem if Destiny gets deadbeats off the streets /drugs or out of prison etc, but what I do object to and its a bit off topic, is that (if)churches get tax exemptions because their business is somehow different to other customer service businesses.

BTW don't go on too much about it cos religion gets treated different on here too.

Most churches are registered charities which makes them exempt from income tax. They still have to pay GST, PAYE, fringe benefit tax, etc.

They are the same as the Red Cross, St Johns, SPCA, and Habitat For Humanity. If you gave a donation to any of those, would you want 30% to go to the government?

[Woodman]

Most churches are registered charities which makes them exempt from income tax. They still have to pay GST, PAYE, fringe benefit tax, etc.

They are the same as the Red Cross, St Johns, SPCA, and Habitat For Humanity. If you gave a donation to any of those, would you want 30% to go to the government?

Sorry but from what I can see is churches only help their own members (and feather their own nests) whereas the others don't discriminate, so yes their profits should be taxed just like every other business in the customer service game, which is every other business.

[Winston001]

LOL oh dear Woodman, you need to get out more. Most major religions encourage help for other people regardless of belief. Islam requires graciousness and hospitality to strangers. Hinduism believes in charity to the poor - which is why beggars are an accepted part of the community in India. Bhuddism teaches love and kindness to others.

And Christianity? A central tenet is treating others as you would like to be treated. Going further, laying down your life for others.

None of these faiths/philosophies require other humans to be of the same group to receive kindness.

[Scouse]

Is she a member of destiny?

Don't you understand ireverence?

[Paul in NZ]

Don't you understand ireverence?

Well spelling it incorrectly does make it harder.....

I asked 'cos she seemed a likely candidate....

[Grubber]

I once heard Brian Tamaki say "we are like any other large corporate enterprise and i am the CEO of that company,so why shouldn't i be paid well?"
Didn't realize it was a large Company. Always thought churches were a religious charity of sorts, well there ya go, just goes to show, i don't know everything.