Race numbers - a bitch...

[Mental Trousers]

Seems odd the rules have disappeared, it was stated when I got into it that figure font must be "Ariel" and figures must be 25mm thick. And the figures had to be a certain height too.....can't remember now though, 150mm or so.

I've seen that in the rules. Looked it up when I had my bike repainted. But, of course, now when I have a look there's no mention of the font or height of the numbers so it must've been in the 2009 rule book??

[MSTRS:Me]

Maybe MNZ listened to rider complaints about not being able to comply with number regs - what with body styling being the way it is now, placing a 150mm high number on each side of a tailpiece would be impossible?
So MNZ removed that part of the regs without replacing it with something about using commonsense?

[Tony.OK]

Maybe MNZ listened to rider complaints about not being able to comply with number regs - what with body styling being the way it is now, placing a 150mm high number on each side of a tailpiece would be impossible?
So MNZ removed that part of the regs without replacing it with something about using commonsense?

That rule changed a while ago, the 1000cc and 600cc classes have only needed 1 number on the tail piece for a while now, its still in the appendix's for those classes.

Side fairing #'s may be the go eh? MNZ has that option in the regs now but not compulsory.

[Mental Trousers]

Side fairing numbers would be good. Except if you don't have side fairings on

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

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Side fairing is the way to go for fully faired bikes obviously.

The amount of noise being made now about poor number visability from Stewards, marshals, spectators and other race officials we shall be back to paint tin lids unless we (the riders) sort our shit out.

If its clearly visable MNZ will let you get away with a slight bend in the rules I would suspect. But if we do nothing then they will enforce the letter of the law simple as that really.

[MSTRS:Me]

Side fairing numbers would be good. Except if you don't have side fairings on

I've often thought that numbers could go on the sides. But not only does that mean sponsors area/s are reduced - the simplest little lie down could mean requiring a constant supply of spare numbers in the kit.
I actually think that getting too specific is counterproductive, but leaving it 'loose' also carries it's own problems.
What to do, eh?

How about...
Race numbers.
Must be a plain font, easy to read with the naked eye at 100m distance.
Front - to be 150mm high
Sides - to be a minimum of 100mm high, to be placed on each side of either tail-piece or main fairing, and in such a position that it is not obscured by normal riding position.

There are a lot of bikes where the tail-piece is not suitable, but the belly blade under/behind the footpegs would be fine. The single number on the tail-piece that TonyOK referred to might be in the rules, but honestly - it's not that great for trackside. Bike may be leaning away from the observer, or the number is upside down...bike 99 becomes 66. Imagine the furore over a complaint for instance?

[Mental Trousers]

Sponsorship logo's that aren't in the prime spot are often impossible to see on a moving bike so I don't know if that's such a big issue. Moving the numbers to the side fairings instead of the tail leaves the entire tail for sponsorship, which is seen in the pits etc.

[Marknz]

Transponders do not replace physical numbers.

On behalf of all the hard-working volunteers, especially the trackside marshals...
SORT YOUR FERKIN NUMBERS OUT

I'm #67 in the Clubmans class... can you tell me what colour numbers, what font, and what colour background a Clubmans class racer should be using please? I'm advised that 99% of the attendees could see the four sets of numbers on my bike on the weekend, but I have to change mine because one person complained.

Please advise

[Mental Trousers]

I'm #67 in the Clubmans class... can you tell me what colour numbers, what font, and what colour background a Clubmans class racer should be using please? I'm advised that 99% of the attendees could see the four sets of numbers on my bike on the weekend, but I have to change mine because one person complained.

Please advise

2010 Manual of Motorcycle Sport - 10.2.3 & 10.3

[MSTRS:Me]

I'm #67 in the Clubmans class... can you tell me what colour numbers, what font, and what colour background a Clubmans class racer should be using please? I'm advised that 99% of the attendees could see the four sets of numbers on my bike on the weekend, but I have to change mine because one person complained.

Please advise

I don't know about class/colours. That is not an issue for marshals etc. Besides, with all the cross-entering that goes on...
As for any particular bike, this weekend there were an awful lot that were awful. Either too small, or not there at all, or terrible style, for instance.
The 2 bikes that do jump to mind, were one with a too small/dull gold 67 on a black background - and Mister RomanNumerals/OldEnglishStoneMasonFont (took me awhile to figure out he wasn't from LEVIN...)

Ooops, just re-read your post. I don't know of any complaints as such about yours - but it certainly wasn't that easy to see.

[Marknz]

2010 Manual of Motorcycle Sport - 10.2.3 & 10.3

Thanks. Nothing for Clubmans is there... and there is nothing that says what size the numbers should be for any class, other than what size the number board should be... so in actual theory, if one was wanting to be awkward..... never mind. I'll just get the bloody things changed

[MSTRS:Me]

Thanks. Nothing for Clubmans is there... and there is nothing that says what size the numbers should be for any class, other than what size the number board should be... so in actual theory, if one was wanting to be awkward..... never mind. I'll just get the bloody things changed

Yea - Clubmans is really an orphan class. There was at least one there yesterday that had no numbers at all. Think it was that old Guzzi that lost his side cover.
If you stand a good distance from your bike, and the number is too small or the colour contrast to the background isn't flash....

[Mental Trousers]

Thanks. Nothing for Clubmans is there... and there is nothing that says what size the numbers should be for any class, other than what size the number board should be... so in actual theory, if one was wanting to be awkward..... never mind. I'll just get the bloody things changed

Good point. In that case the Club running the meeting should cover Clubmans in the Supplementary Rules that are printed on the entry form. However

No championship points will be awarded to riders. Engine size open.
At the Manfeild short circuit, the lower limit for Clubmans will be approximately 1:18. Crossing this threshold will be allowed 3 times only. After that the rider will be moved to an appropriate class if there is room.

Race Numbers:
Race Numbers must remain consistent throughout the series due to the timing system used. MNZ allocated Numbers are preferred; the organisers retain the right to change race numbers if required. Leave the Race Number field and the entry form blank if you want the organisers to allocate a series number (200 or above).

So it would seem there's no particular colour/background for Clubmans (that I can find anyway), although there is size of number board and width of numbers (MNZ regs covering all road racing).

[MSTRS:Me]

There's some stunning photos in here
And some that show exactly what I'm bitching about.

[GirrlRacer]

On a lighter note, the racing yesterday was superb. Under trying conditions, you guys and guyesses put on a great show.
And the sportsmanship shown by that rider in the Superlight/Streetstock race was gold medal. You allowed Mihi to finish her first race ever, and get a chequered flag.
WELL DONE, SIR!!!!

Yes, big thanks to Sam for letting me finish my first race of the day with a checkered flag!! I was so happy