I agree with Alasdair Thompson

[imdying]

Better than being an ignorant cock such as yourself though.

Oh I don't know, being well paid and knowing it has advantages that out weight that

[Gone Burger]

Must admit this interview got my back up too.

When I was living back in Auckland, I would often work 90 hour weeks, and even cracked 120 hours a week two weeks in a row.

I my last job in Wellington I got paid for 40 hour week, and it never fell shy on 52 hours. There was just work that needed to be done, and I made sure it got done. I was there for 5 yearsand was on the lowest pay as I was the only female. The monkey we had assisting in the workshop got higher pay than myself, and was never there.

After 5 years, I had the full 20 days sick leave owing to me, as I rarely took a dayoff sick. I was in a position where I simply couldn't just up and leave for a day and would only do so if I was at risk of getting everyone in my workplace sick.

I lost my job after my accident and am now on the hunt for a new one. This time I'll be focussing on never working for a bunch of dick heads like that again, who throw chairs at you in the office, and shove you if you say good morning to them. Bring it on - that interview was a joke.

[Scuba_Steve]

Must admit this interview got my back up too.

When I was living back in Auckland, I would often work 90 hour weeks, and even cracked 120 hours a week two weeks in a row.

I my last job in Wellington I got paid for 40 hour week, and it never fell shy on 52 hours. There was just work that needed to be done, and I made sure it got done. I was there for 5 yearsand was on the lowest pay as I was the only female. The monkey we had assisting in the workshop got higher pay than myself, and was never there.

After 5 years, I had the full 20 days sick leave owing to me, as I rarely took a dayoff sick. I was in a position where I simply couldn't just up and leave for a day and would only do so if I was at risk of getting everyone in my workplace sick.

I lost my job after my accident and am now on the hunt for a new one. This time I'll be focussing on never working for a bunch of dick heads like that again, who throw chairs at you in the office, and shove you if you say good morning to them. Bring it on - that interview was a joke.

why da hell do you people work so much??? & for free (I'm assuming?). that to me is .
If I aint getting paid I aint working simple!, It aint my company.

[Gone Burger]

why da hell do you people work so much??? & for free (I'm assuming?). that to me is .
If I aint getting paid I aint working simple!, It aint my company.

Because I have so much pride in my work, and know I am not of a skill level where I can demand more money successfully. I am realistic there. But the industry I have been in for 10 years simply demands big hours, and when I was freelancing you had to take all of the work when it was there. Thats when I was doing those huge hours.

The rest of the time, I work hard for what I get paid, and make sure all of my work is done, and done well. Sometimes that means putting in the time for free. If it means I am better at my job then I do it.

[oneofsix]

Because I have so much pride in my work, and know I am not of a skill level where I can demand more money successfully. I am realistic there. But the industry I have been in for 10 years simply demands big hours, and when I was freelancing you had to take all of the work when it was there. Thats when I was doing those huge hours.

The rest of the time, I work hard for what I get paid, and make sure all of my work is done, and done well. Sometimes that means putting in the time for free. If it means I am better at my job then I do it.

This is liable to be a bit out of the box for most but I wonder if this is part of why Aussie earn more than Kiwis and men more than woman. The employer has to pay them for the work, they will not do it for free, the Aussies because they still have powerful unions, men because they tend to take a longer view of being at work (its a life sentence).

[Clockwork]

What bothers me about this whole issue is that once again, rather than debate the content or merit of the opinion modern society seems rather to want to condemn the person for expressing it in the first place.

Whether you like it or not the issues that he has raised will at least affect some businesses perceptions of women's productivity and in some case those perceptions will be borne out.

I agree that at an individual level this is often hideously unfair but isn't it somewhat like the way Insurance companies will discriminate against policy holder's based upon their perception of a statistical group. (ACC anyone?)

I accept that statistically women are paid less than men but is there also not laws to ensure wage discrimination based upon gender is illegal, once you take that out of the equation the remaining differences must surely be environmental and based upon work history or just petty cronyism.

Incidentally, I have reason to believe that I too am paid less than some of my colleagues and I'm probably paid more than others but since I'm a male I can't assume its gender discrimination, I guess I'll just have to look for other reasons.

[oneofsix]

What bothers me about this whole issue is that once again, rather than debate the content or merit of the opinion modern society seems rather to want to condemn the person for expressing it in the first place.

Whether you like it or not the issues that he has raised will at least affect some businesses perceptions of women's productivity and in some case those perceptions will be borne out.

I agree that at an individual level this is often hideously unfair but isn't it somewhat like the way Insurance companies will discriminate against policy holder's based upon their perception of a statistical group. (ACC anyone?)

I accept that statistically women are paid less than men but is there also not laws to ensure wage discrimination based upon gender is illegal, once you take that out of the equation the remaining differences must surely be environmental and based upon work history or just petty cronyism.

Incidentally, I have reason to believe that I too am paid less than some of my colleagues and I'm probably paid more than others but since I'm a male I can't assume its gender discrimination, I guess I'll just have to look for other reasons.

I think you meant to say there ARE also laws to ensure wage discrimination based upon gender is illegal. There are. Do they work? According to the woman who have responded, no. Why not? here I think you have made a good point or two.

[Str8 Jacket]

Oh I don't know, being well paid and knowing it has advantages that out weight that

OK, you win!

[imdying]

OK, you win!

I already knew that... and if you weren't so grumpy from being on your rag you would've too

[Str8 Jacket]

Because I have so much pride in my work, and know I am not of a skill level where I can demand more money successfully. I am realistic there.

I hear ya - I was in the same position but now that I have some experience I aint putting up with that crap anymore!

[Str8 Jacket]

I already knew that... and if you weren't so grumpy from being on your rag you would've too

Buggar - if I'd known I would've taken the day off work!

[imdying]

Hey why not! They're docking your wages for it apparently so you might as well get your moneys worth!

[rachprice]

Being one of these women that 'just takes a day off at that time of the month' I would challenge any of you dudes not to if you experienced what I and many other women do

I would happily get them to cut my dam uterus out but they won't let me

I have to take 2 naproxen 2 paracetamol at the very start of any pain sometimes that doesn't do shit so I take a tramadol which will take the edge off but often I'm still incapacitated on my couch

I don't claim to be the toughest person in the world but I'm no softie either and have a relatively high pain threshold

I did not chose to be a women or have this, unfortunately endometriosis runs in the family and surgery has proven to have little effect

I can understand people getting mad but for some people it is a very genuine reason, though I'm sure there are plenty that milk it

[Indiana_Jones]

What bothers me about this whole issue is that once again, rather than debate the content or merit of the opinion modern society seems rather to want to condemn the person for expressing it in the first place.

This is the issue that bothers me too.

Imagine if someone got sacked for being a national or labour fan. For having an opinion. The media would be screaming blue murder....

But when someone makes a point of view about women, maoris or dole takers then all of a sudden it's 'My lord you can't have an opinion there! how dare you! resign at once for fucking speaking your mind....'

Ok so he reckons women take more leave cause they're on the rag or need to look after their sick kids. I know our secretary was away on Tuesday to look after her sick child....

-Indy

[rustyrobot]

This is the issue that bothers me too.

Imagine if someone got sacked for being a national or labour fan. For having an opinion. The media would be screaming blue murder....

But when someone makes a point of view about women, maoris or dole takers then all of a sudden it's 'My lord you can't have an opinion there! how dare you! resign at once for fucking speaking your mind....'

Ok so he reckons women take more leave cause they're on the rag or need to look after their sick kids. I know our secretary was away on Tuesday to look after her sick child....

-Indy

Wow her husband must be a selfish prick.

You are neglecting the context of his position. He would NOT be allowed to make a statement about his feelings on Labour or National in that position in an election year. He is the figurehead for the Employers Association and he speaks as such. His views are outdated and he needs to move on to sitting on his porch listening to golden oldies and moaning about the youth of today.