Biker dies in no helmet protest

[thecharmed01]

I think it deserves the just because at the time he was on a PROTEST RIDE AGAINST WEARING A HELMET. Obviously won't be doing his cause any favors...

I have to agree.. I'm afraid while it's sad he lost his life, one can't help but note the irony of the situation.
Would have been a whole lot less fuss if he'd not been on a ride protesting helmets!

[swbarnett]

Would have been a whole lot less fuss if he'd not been on a ride protesting helmets!

According to the article he was protesting helmet laws, not helmets.

[Big Dave]

"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous

Good luck with that. Sincerely.

[thecharmed01]

According to the article he was protesting helmet laws, not helmets.

Potato potahto.... he wasn't wearing a helmet, at a protest concerning helmets.
You can be as pedantic as you like, but it's still just as ironic. If not more so.

[gammaguy]

he who lives by the dumb shall die by the dumb

or something like that

[ducatilover]

he who lives by the dumb shall die by the dumb

or something like that

A fool and his money shall soon be....what c*nt stole my wallet?

[xclued]

So stupid... So sad.

[Berries]

We rode in Raro without helmets and it was rather pleasant except for the occasional bug in the face and in the evening when it got cooler.

Did the same. To cut a long story short I ended up spending a few hours at the Police station on a Saturday night. Was out the back having a smoke and looking at the sheer number of smashed up scooters that had smashed up tourists on them. Talking to the cops I wouldn't be surprised if one day they change the helmet rule for visitors.

[Yossarian]

Funny as fuck...reminds me of living in Howick and seeing lads in their jandals and wifebeaters on R1's in the middle of summer. You reap what you sow, freedom of speech? meh... a bit of common fucking sense I'd say.

[jazfender]

Let whether one chooses to wear a helmet be the measure of your opinions, not whether one chooses to abide by the law.

With the current laws, it's not about him being stupid for not wearing a helmet, it's the principle that the law does not allow him that choice.

[Banditbandit]

Let whether one chooses to wear a helmet be the measure of your opinions, not whether one chooses to abide by the law.

With the current laws, it's not about him being stupid for not wearing a helmet, it's the principle that the law does not allow him that choice.

Hmmm ... maybe ... Way back I objected to being forced to wear a helmet .... (owned and rode bikes before I owned a helmet) ... now I wouldn't get on a bike without ATGATT ...

But freedom of choice as a principle here? There are many freedoms are forced to give up because of the law .. such as the freedom to kill people ... freedom to take drugs ... (Yeah - unless we can get away with it) ...

Where do we draw the line? That will always be as question for debate - and rightly so ..

Helmets have saved my life twice .. a good full face meant I walked away instead of being carried away .... Without a compulsory helmet law I would be DEAD ... so I agree that freedom of choice is important .. but so is stopping stupidity and saving lives ...

[oneofsix]

Hmmm ... maybe ... Way back I objected to being forced to wear a helmet .... (owned and rode bikes before I owned a helmet) ... now I wouldn't get on a bike without ATGATT ...

But freedom of choice as a principle here? There are many freedoms are forced to give up because of the law .. such as the freedom to kill people ... freedom to take drugs ... (Yeah - unless we can get away with it) ...

Where do we draw the line? That will always be as question for debate - and rightly so ..

Banditbandit you must go way back if you rode before helmet were law

Where to draw the line? I would like to have as; you are free to do what you like as long as it doesn't affect someone else. Yeah but who decides when you are affecting someone else? If you ride with out a helmet and die as a result your riding wasn't affecting anyone but you but the consequences did. If blanket man was allowed to dress according to his expressed believes who does it affect and why is he not allowed to? We draw the line often based on popular opinion.

[Banditbandit]

Banditbandit you must go way back if you rode before helmet were law

Yeah .. something like that. I was riding a mate's bike around Remuera the day helmets became compulsory - without a helmet ... (It was a mate's bike because I didn't live in Orc-land .. and didn't have my bike with me ...) .. sorry I'm old ...

[oneofsix]

Yeah .. something like that. I was riding a mate's bike around Remuera the day helmets became compulsory - without a helmet ... (It was a mate's bike because I didn't live in Orc-land .. and didn't have my bike with me ...) .. sorry I'm old ...

never be sorry on KB. I can remember the law coming in but weren't yet old enough to be riding. Guess me calling you old is the pot calling the kettle black

[Edbear]

Hmmm ... maybe ... Way back I objected to being forced to wear a helmet .... (owned and rode bikes before I owned a helmet) ... now I wouldn't get on a bike without ATGATT ...

But freedom of choice as a principle here? There are many freedoms are forced to give up because of the law .. such as the freedom to kill people ... freedom to take drugs ... (Yeah - unless we can get away with it) ...

Where do we draw the line? That will always be as question for debate - and rightly so ..

Helmets have saved my life twice .. a good full face meant I walked away instead of being carried away .... Without a compulsory helmet law I would be DEAD ... so I agree that freedom of choice is important .. but so is stopping stupidity and saving lives ...

"You must spread..." Well put!

Banditbandit you must go way back if you rode before helmet were law

Where to draw the line? I would like to have as; you are free to do what you like as long as it doesn't affect someone else. Yeah but who decides when you are affecting someone else? If you ride with out a helmet and die as a result your riding wasn't affecting anyone but you but the consequences did. If blanket man was allowed to dress according to his expressed believes who does it affect and why is he not allowed to? We draw the line often based on popular opinion.

"Popular opinion", or generallly agreed what is the best overall balance of freedom and responsibility? Certainly, death and injury affects others, so to claim one is not infringing the rights of others is only true if you have no consequences for anyone else. In a society, that is not true of any activity, or at least most activities.