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    Service to retrofit a pinlock insert

    I'm sold on trying pinlock, but I'm not particularly keen to mis-drill my Shoei visor, nor to spend the crazy amount of money they want for a pinlock-ready one.

    I remember a couple of years ago a guy in Wellington was retofitting pinlock inserts to any visor for $50 all inclusive. A bloody good deal, I'd say.

    Does anyone know if anywhere around Auckland offers this? TIA.

    Edit: or even just sells a kit like this one from the UK?

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    I would think any bike shop would do it... I hadn't considered that they wouldn't when I had mine fitted, I just went to my favourite.

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    Don't they come with a template? If not you just need to carefully work put where the holes are by putting a smallish piece of masking tape on and measuring it out with a sewing tape. I can give you the hole to hole centres if you need?
    Also you should use a slighty blunt drill bit wrapped with tape so you can spin it and drill using your fingers.
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    Thanks for the replies.

    I've been asking a few shops since posting. The DIY kits are not available and the insert packs don't include the pins. If they did I could maybe try offering up an insert, marking up the visor and doing the drilling with tape, as you suggest. One of those old-school hand-drills would probably be perfect for the job.

    To get the pins here, it seems that I have to buy a replacement visor and I already have three visors. Call me a tight-arse, but I'm a bit strapped for cash at present.

    A cynical person might suggest that the importer would rather sell a replacement visor plus insert than the available DIY insert kit for a third of the price. Shame on that cynic.

    Meanwhile I might try ordering up the kit from the UK.
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    A Pinlock insert is $75.80 at one local dealer. I had scratched mine and am tossing up whether to get another. My visor is also marked slightly and at $70, the two soon start adding up.

    On the weekend I wore my older helmet and tried the dish washing detergent trick on the inside of the visor. It worked ok, but didn't get enough rain to really test the idea.
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    Update: I found a cheaper source for the kit at racevisors.co.uk

    Anyone else want one?

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    Thinking of buying a helmet from there myself (replacement that I can't source in New Zealand).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasio View Post
    Update: I found a cheaper source for the kit at racevisors.co.uk

    Anyone else want one?
    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Thinking of buying a helmet from there myself (replacement that I can't source in New Zealand).
    They are good to deal with, I get all my visors from them. Recently got new lining and checkpads for my Arai, took less than a week to arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    They are good to deal with, I get all my visors from them. Recently got new lining and checkpads for my Arai, took less than a week to arrive.
    Thanks for the feedback on the vendor. There are now two of us after a DIY kit, so I'll get the ducks in a row and get an order in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasio View Post
    Thanks for the feedback on the vendor. There are now two of us after a DIY kit, so I'll get the ducks in a row and get an order in.
    Got the kit yesterday and fitted it this morning. Piece of cake.

    The template makes marking up the position for the holes very easy. I marked it with a fine-tipped jewellers' screwdriver, then started the hole just using the bit in my fingers (a tip I read on here somewhere, I think). Once each hole was well established, I finished up with an 18v driver at low speed.

    Pins went in nicely and the insert seems to be bang on first time

    Incidentally, the kit came with three pins with the bit & template and another three with the insert. So I will prep another one of my visors as well, and keep two pins as spares.

    So... I now have the template (for a Shoei CX-1V) and supplied bit (any visors). Next time I'll just buy an insert and if anyone around Auckland wants to do the same and pop over to use them, drop me a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasio View Post
    Got the kit yesterday and fitted it this morning. Piece of cake.

    The template makes marking up the position for the holes very easy. I marked it with a fine-tipped jewellers' screwdriver, then started the hole just using the bit in my fingers (a tip I read on here somewhere, I think). Once each hole was well established, I finished up with an 18v driver at low speed.

    Pins went in nicely and the insert seems to be bang on first time

    Incidentally, the kit came with three pins with the bit & template and another three with the insert. So I will prep another one of my visors as well, and keep two pins as spares.

    So... I now have the template (for a Shoei CX-1V) and supplied bit (any visors). Next time I'll just buy an insert and if anyone around Auckland wants to do the same and pop over to use them, drop me a PM.
    This is good to know. I was looking at getting a kit from them for the same visor as you funnily enough. It's for my wifes visor and at the moment, since we're short on moolaa, we're trying the anti-fog spray to tie her over.

    Eventually we'll get the get knowing now that it's not too scary

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckai View Post
    This is good to know. I was looking at getting a kit from them for the same visor as you funnily enough. It's for my wifes visor and at the moment, since we're short on moolaa, we're trying the anti-fog spray to tie her over.
    Motomail and Cyclespot (I presume others too) have non-pinlock inserts (i.e. they just stick on.)

    I had one on my old HJC cos I wasn't brave enough to try to drill holes in my visor.

    Not as good as Pinlock, but IMHO, work better than the spray.

    ~$20 IIRC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post

    ~$20 IIRC
    Whey hey

    Not ~$20 - but EXACTLY $20

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    to be honest - you get what you pay for.
    you pay $20 and it will last you a month. You get the proper visor and the pinlock for a little more and it will last you 2 years. your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Motomail and Cyclespot (I presume others too) have non-pinlock inserts (i.e. they just stick on.)

    I had one on my old HJC cos I wasn't brave enough to try to drill holes in my visor.

    Not as good as Pinlock, but IMHO, work better than the spray.

    ~$20 IIRC
    My experience with that kit was that making the holes was not an issue. The template means you're bang on target and a bit of patience and the right bit was all that was needed to get a good clean hole with no 'oops' scratches.

    If you shop around you might get a Pinlock insert (e.g. for Shoei) for $50 here in NZ and I think they come with pins. No template and no drill are provided, but I'd be happy to be contacted about that by any local KB'ers. I know some people have just offered up the insert and drilled it, but I can see that would be harder.

    And FWIW, I rode in a monster hailstorm yesterday that would usually have meant fog-up central. The pinlocked visor stayed completely clear. Same going to and from work. I can finally breathe easy at traffic lights in the rain.

    I should have gone Pinlock years ago. I certainly wouldn't buy a replacement visor that wasn't Pinlock ready, either.

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