What's the deal with motards and F3?

**Quasievil** · 12th July 2011, 22:25

Originally Posted by White trash

Ummmm, I was there that day. You didn't struggle to keep up, you just didn't keep up. We were LOLing all around the pits watching that

no you cheeky fucker thats not true, on the corners maybe I could have passed him on the straights OF COURSE but I wanted to watch.....fuck I aint that freckin slow you HOMO

**Crasherfromwayback** · 12th July 2011, 22:27

Originally Posted by White trash

"Racing" and "crashing" are two totaly different sports.

What would you know? You've only ever done one of them.

**roadracingoldfart** · 13th July 2011, 21:11

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

What would you know? You've only ever done one of them.

Nooooo , he tried them both but only perfected one of them.

**roadracingoldfart** · 13th July 2011, 21:16

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Here are the vioces of F3 Riders (ex F3 and Motard Rider myself)

1/ they take different lines waaaa waaaa

2/ they back it in to corners waaaa waaaa

3/ They stick there foot out waaaa waaaa

facts are, which class of race bikes all have the same lines? if they all did race tracks only need be 3ft wide.
On a full blown taupo manfield hampton track NZ motarders are rarely doing the backing in thing, most cant do it anyway. implementing a simple rule to blackflag those few backing it in would have been sufficient to solve this issue.
Sticking their foot out is a load of crap, if anything they stick their foot forward to get the boot of the peg at hard lean angles..........so what?
A knee out on a sports bike takes up more room

the FACT is F3 riders bitched and moaned about it as many of them where getting their arses whipped by a lighter and faster Motard bike thereby upsetting their little personal "WOOO IM LIKE ROSSI" moments........precious fuckers !!

And of course you will have to admit that REAL Motard riders want and use ashphalt and dirt . I have only seen one event using both surfaces in the Motard class.
Motard has a class , Superlite has a class. Why do Motard biggots always want to have 2 classes when there is only one class available for thier machines.?

**racefactory** · 13th July 2011, 21:34

I would race asphalt and dirt if there was the option.

**wharfy** · 14th July 2011, 06:05

Originally Posted by racefactory

I would race asphalt and dirt if there was the option.

Go to Greymouth at Labour weekend - they usually have a dirt section

**Grumph** · 14th July 2011, 07:21

And very amusing to watch it is too....

One very real problem not mentioned so far is the likelihood of a motard handlebar in the head of a crouched rider on a "normal" roadrace bike. At street circuits it becomes very apparent due to the resticted racing room.

As Budda has suggested, follow the yanks who run a very successful singles class based on 450 motards - suitably modified for roadracing.These would fit into our existing F3 nicely.

**Deano** · 14th July 2011, 07:47

Originally Posted by Grumph

And very amusing to watch it is too....

One very real problem not mentioned so far is the likelihood of a motard handlebar in the head of a crouched rider on a "normal" roadrace bike. At street circuits it becomes very apparent due to the resticted racing room.

As Budda has suggested, follow the yanks who run a very successful singles class based on 450 motards - suitably modified for roadracing.These would fit into our existing F3 nicely.

Check out LostnFlys "Vespa" 550 - thats one sweet motard converted to F3.

**Quasievil** · 14th July 2011, 07:52

Originally Posted by Grumph

One very real problem not mentioned so far is the likelihood of a motard handlebar in the head of a crouched rider on a "normal" roadrace bike.

Ya What ??

how the fuck would that happen ?

**racefactory** · 14th July 2011, 09:15

I also don't get how on earth that would happen?

**White trash** · 14th July 2011, 09:55

Originally Posted by racefactory

I would race asphalt and dirt if there was the option.

So we'll see you at the Super Moto Endurance race at Taupo soon then? 60% Asphalt, 40% dirt.

**racefactory** · 14th July 2011, 10:33

Thanks, didn't know it was on for 2011! Can only find dates and info for 2010.

**Grumph** · 14th July 2011, 16:16

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Ya What ??

how the fuck would that happen ?

Motard on outside line as they prefer....F3 comes up inside on brakes...motard turns in and the bar end is just the right height to collect the other rider at head or shoulder height.

Get out and spectate more....before the classes were separated I saw this happen several times at Greymouth. It's also not uncommon at BEARS meetings at Ruapuna - the dipper seems to bring out the worst in people and there's usually a conventional racer vs motard accident in there at most BEARS meetings on the full circuit.

**Quasievil** · 14th July 2011, 16:19

Originally Posted by Grumph

Motard on outside line as they prefer....F3 comes up inside on brakes...motard turns in and the bar end is just the right height to collect the other rider at head or shoulder height.

Get out and spectate more....before the classes were separated I saw this happen several times at Greymouth. It's also not uncommon at BEARS meetings at Ruapuna - the dipper seems to bring out the worst in people and there's usually a conventional racer vs motard accident in there at most BEARS meetings on the full circuit.

Really, so the F3 rider isnt leaning his head into the corner ?

Im still not sold on that one, I think youre dreaming bro