Fucking looters and yobbos and rent-a-mob in London

[Woodman]

Couldn't agree more. This country has it's problems like the rest.

UK is full of Paki and Polish cunts, NZ is full of Slope heads.

Unemployment is high in the UK, high here.

Better chance of getting a job here in Auckland then in a town of 18,000 though lol

Not much one can do really.

Forget the slopes and the pakis, the problem we have in NZ if you want to take a racist stance is the fucken whinging shitstirring english that we let in. They may look the same as us but they are still foreign.

[Winston001]

the problem with sending in the army is that the british troops they would send have just come back from Iraq. So the search and seizure mindset, area clearance, headspace of the soldiers and command is utterly utterly wrong for this sort of thing.

short answer: Dont. its the wrong thing to do.

Must say I had the same thoughts overnight. Soldiers are trained to kill and do it well. As they should. Holding back being nice guys while some prick throws Molotov cocktails and bricks at you just isn't natural for any soldier. I'd shoot. Probably regret it, but that's the instinct from 16,000km away.

They use the L85A2 which is a nice assault rifle. Short on range but so is the M16 and this is all local firezone so it would be fine.



Edit: just watching Yngwie Malmsteen playing Voodoo Chile so my views may be enhanced...

[jazfender]

Forget the slopes and the pakis, the problem we have in NZ if you want to take a racist stance is the fucken whinging shitstirring english that we let in. They may look the same as us but they are still foreign.

And why would you want to take a racist stance?

[Berries]

What a load of shite, I left school during the 90´s recession in the UK and struggled to find someone to take me on as an apprentice. I took a pay cut from stacking shelves in a supermarket and only got the job because my parents encouraged me to write begging letters to all businesses in the area.

They should swap out these homegrown spoilt western brats for hard working immigrants, send them to some genuine shit holes where they will feel at home

Absolutely bang on. They have it hard. So fucking what?

Every TV camera in the UK should have a sniper rifle attachment and these twats should be taken out. At the very least they should kneecap every fucker with a mask on. They are using oxygen that the rest of us need.

I can't see this kind of thing happening in NZ, basically because of the gun laws. People here would be able to protect their property a bit better than some scared immigrants with no Police back up.

Forget the slopes and the pakis, the problem we have in NZ if you want to take a racist stance is the fucken whinging shitstirring english that we let in. They may look the same as us but they are still foreign.

Well if you want to be racist look at this way. If you hadn't let them in you'd be listening to the news on the bongo drums.

[Berries]

i see the BBC are getting slated. Try this for some independent views - England Riots.

[jazfender]

More perspective for those typing with their cocks.

http://globalcomment.com/2011/why-ri...-london-riots/

[slowpoke]

Let me get this right. There are people here who are defending the actions of the 'looters'? Correct me if I'm wrong.

But if you are defending them, how would you feel as they approached your home with your family in it?

Nope, I don't think anyone here is defending their actions, they're just trying to figure out why this is happening....repeatedly. Unless someone starts to look at the root causes you might as well start putting a bit aside each week as you wait for the next outbreak.

To look at it another way: could the same thing happen in Auckland, Wellington or Christchurch? Or Sydney, Melbourne or Perth? I don't think so, and not because they are that much smaller, but because the culture is different. So you have to ask: why is the culture is so fucked over there and not here? London is supposedly one of the world's "pin-up" cities in a supposedly egalitarian society. So WHY are these riots occurring?

Whatever way you look at it: yobs and thugs or a genuinely frustrated underclass SOME COMBINATION OF THINGS has created the situation. Either put things in place to stop creating yobs and thugs or reduce the frustration. Stamping out the current unrest and doing nothing else is treating the symptom, not the disease.

I mean, if you had repeated major breakdowns with your bike, say it kept holing pistons, you'd do more than just keep replacing pistons would you? You'd be investigating all sorts of things: piston manufacture, air/fuel ratio, ignition timing, fuel quality etc etc. All the people who think just shooting the yobs and going back to normal business are effectively advocating just keep changing the piston, there is no other problem. Surely looking at why the piston keeps failing is the better option?

[jonbuoy]

More perspective for those typing with their cocks.

http://globalcomment.com/2011/why-ri...-london-riots/

Have you ever been to the UK?

[Brian d marge]

On the news tonight there was a story about Clapham or Croydon or something that the community banded together and came out and cleaned up the mess. That's great, the community taking ownership. Now just need the parents to take ownership of their kids. The govt. to take ownership of the lax laws and policies that have allowed the shifting of accountability from the individual, especially the youth. They say we in NZ are about 10-15 yrs behind Britain socially. If we don't sort our shit out soon... we're fucked!

Yup I would say thats true, I was born and bred in east london , squatted in most north london housing estates , and unless you have been there and seen the inter generational ..fked-up-ness,
about 20 % are feral , as in feral ... cant read , write , and the ONLY interview they will ever get is from a nice man in a blue suit.
They just don't care ,

This ( as I have said till I'm blue in the face ),is a result of American style economics , .

and the book I quoted , " five families a Mexican case study " its all there

The I don't care attitude , probably is in NZ already, but the day they actually get of their arses , I am running down the TAB to put ten dollars each way , on snowflake in Hell.


Burn the friggen place to the ground I say ...... maybe SOMETHING will change

Stephen

[Fatt Max]

the problem we have in NZ if you want to take a racist stance is the fucken whinging shitstirring english that we let in. They may look the same as us but they are still foreign.

Too fucking right we are mate. Mind you, who else would have given you the 'after pub curry' if we all stayed at home.

I love you and want to rub honey mustard into the deepest reaches of your cleft....mwah.....

[Fatt Max]

Burn the friggen place to the ground I say ...... maybe SOMETHING will change

Wait until I get out before you do that me old mate, hanging out now for a decent mince n cheese eh....

[Maha]

Dont bring all of us English into this mate. These are a minority of mindless cunts. I know, I am here looking at them. They are just about human, please dont refer to them as poms or English, they dont deserve it.

...some say ''one thing kiwis are good at is playing rugby''....well clearly that is not completely true because I am not.

[Deano]

I mean, if you had repeated major breakdowns with your bike, say it kept holing pistons, you'd do more than just keep replacing pistons would you? You'd be investigating all sorts of things: piston manufacture, air/fuel ratio, ignition timing, fuel quality etc etc. All the people who think just shooting the yobs and going back to normal business are effectively advocating just keep changing the piston, there is no other problem. Surely looking at why the piston keeps failing is the better option?

But what if the manufacturer of the pistons just kept making shite products which was the reason for failure and they weren't interested in improving the product ?

You'd arsehole that particular brand of piston wouldn't you?

[Swoop]

Bad news, the rioting has spread to Ireland.

Poor Paddy has just smashed his laptop screen after trying to loot ebay!

[Paul in NZ]

There was some quite good commentary on close up last night.

Some tosser ex social worker from the area who was a fuckin knob end and had no real insite other than saying it all started when this guy was shot and there needs to be answers about that... (I'd say it had fuck all to do with that and the guy was a baddie with a gun ffs, what was he expecting?)

Then a kiwi sociologist / scientist chick who spent years studying this shit all over europe. One factor is the density of youth in these areas. Sooo many angry young men and nothing else.