Police killing us again!

[MSTRS:Me]

$250 is 62.5% of the fine I would get for riding my bike without a learners plate..

Sorry, no. Was dropped to $100 last year...

[riffer]

Interestingly the fine the officer got was less than the fine he could have delivered to the rider if he caught him at what the SCU said his speed was.

[nadroj]

Who was the judge?

We need to ensure an appeal of the sentence is lodged on Paul's behalf to see the judges decision reviewed by his peers.

[Fluffy Cat]

Incredible....speechless.
But
In line with all other sentences....the law is an ass!.
RIP.

[riffer]

Who was the judge?

We need to ensure an appeal of the sentence is lodged on Paul's behalf to see the judges decision reviewed by his peers.

That's a tricky one. I'd be seeking a legal opinion more learned than www.kiwibiker.co.nz before starting down that road.

[Deano]

Interestingly the fine the officer got was less than the fine he could have delivered to the rider if he caught him at what the SCU said his speed was.

Is this perhaps an issue for BRONZ to look in to ? The Judge has clearly laid more blame on the rider (perhaps for not being able to stop in the visible road distance due to speed), but to say the car driver's blame is worth only $250 fine ?

[riffer]

Is this perhaps an issue for BRONZ to look in to ? The Judge has clearly laid more blame on the rider (perhaps for not being able to stop in the visible road distance due to speed), but to say the car driver's blame is worth only $250 fine ?

We are. We will release a statement in due course Deano.

[Toaster]

Personally I would like to see all NZ drivers do driving courses as part of their licence issue and renewal to the level of the NZ police training (they teach some great stuff) AND see our police do courses to the level of the UK police (which is FAR more superior and takes their skill level far beyond ours).

This officer clearly made a big error and met with a rider making another error by speeding so grossly over the limit and therefore limiting his own chance of survial if the unexpected happened.

Bottom line is we ALL could do with two things - a higher level of skill, and enough sense to use that skill at all times and not get complacent.

[FJRider]

This officer clearly made a big error and met with a rider making another error by speeding so grossly over the limit and therefore limiting his own chance of survial if the unexpected happened.

AND ... clearly ... if either one ... didn't make that "error" ... an "accident" would not have occured ...

but it was ALL the cops fault ... right ... ?????

Bottom line is we ALL could do with two things - a higher level of skill, and enough sense to use that skill at all times and not get complacent.

Three things actually ... included would be a sense of shared responsibility, for the result of errors we make on the road.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Disgusted with the outcome, $250!!??
Totally focused on one and couldn't give a fuck for others on the road. Killed one of the others and gets a fine equivalent to half a days wages

[k14]

Did the cop loose his job? If so then the $250 fine probably takes that into account. If not then at least it should have been 6 months disqualification.

[MarkH]

move described by the judge as 'Careless'
fuck it, the driver was a trained proffesional it's negligence at the very least and an insult to us all

I have to agree with this ^

Shouldn't we expect better of the people paid to enforce the laws, especially when the police claim that their enforcement of road rules is all about safety? Here we have a police officer making a hazard of himself and contributing to an accident that resulted in the death of a motorist, while supposedly his job is to improve safety for such motorists.

I'm glad there was a conviction, but $250 seems VERY light. I've had speeding tickets for more and that was without causing or contributing to the death of anyone! Considering that his careless driving resulted in the death of a man I would have thought that $2500 would have been much closer to a fair fine.

[gwigs]

I,d like to know what the average penalty for careless driving causing death is ?....bet its way more than a $250 fine.

[merv]

The moral of the story kiddies is take care out there, you never know when you are going to be thrown a curve ball like a cop car in your way (and as others have said many other sorts of likely objects) so lets see if we can all stay safe and avoid hitting these damn things.

[bogan]

The moral of the story kiddies is take care out there, you never know when you are going to be thrown a curve ball like a cop car in your way (and as others have said many other sorts of likely objects) so lets see if we can all stay safe and avoid hitting these damn things.

+1, just watched JC's article on the RWC tourist drivers, maybe I stick to only essential driving on those few weeks....

But on the other hand, a message must be sent it isn't ok to throw curve balls. Messages for all!