Police killing us again!

**Aristocat** · 12th August 2011, 19:16

$250 for a life. Going cheap these days.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5437...s-motorcyclist

I want to say 'disappointed'; but that doesn't even begin to convey my thoughts on this matter.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 12th August 2011, 19:34

Originally Posted by riffer

That's a tricky one. I'd be seeking a legal opinion more learned than www.kiwibiker.co.nz before starting down that road.

the Crown prosecuted the case, they would have to appeal it.

How likely is that?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 12th August 2011, 19:35

Originally Posted by bogan

+1, just watched JC's article on the RWC tourist drivers, maybe I stick to only essential driving on those few weeks....

But on the other hand, a message must be sent it isn't ok to throw curve balls. Messages for all!

I saw that as well: bloody hell!

**scumdog** · 12th August 2011, 19:36

Originally Posted by scracha

Originally the Waikato Times reported "tests showed.......could have been..between 114km/h and 142km/h

Now they're reported between 141 and 158?

MAYBE 114 was a typo instead of 141?
who knows
who cares?

**scumdog** · 12th August 2011, 19:38

Originally Posted by Kiwi Graham

Disgusted with the outcome, $250!!??
Totally focused on one and couldn't give a fuck for others on the road. Killed one of the others and gets a fine equivalent to half a days wages

Yeah, a $25,000 fine would have made the rider come alive again, eh?.

**bogan** · 12th August 2011, 19:39

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

I saw that as well: bloody hell!

Yeh it's doable enough to ride so any stationary object on the road isn't going to be too damaging, but whent he fucker is doing 100 towards you, it's going to be a very different story. What dates are the RWC ones, and to be avoided?

**FJRider** · 12th August 2011, 19:49

Originally Posted by MarkH

Shouldn't we expect better of the people paid to enforce the laws, especially when the police claim that their enforcement of road rules is all about safety? Here we have a police officer making a hazard of himself and contributing to an accident that resulted in the death of a motorist, while supposedly his job is to improve safety for such motorists.

We also have claims by motorcyclists ... that they can safely exceed the posted speed limit on such roads ...

Maybe ... most times ... they can. Some times ... SOME GUESS WRONG ...

Be it a Toyota 4WD ... a Campervan ... or Cop car ... which one would YOU want to kill you ... ??? and on what road will it happen ... ???

It seems sorta funny that the topic/content of the thread (Police killing us again) has changed ... to contributing to death ...

Regardless of what we ride or drive ... if we make a mistake/error of judgement/wrong assumptiom (OR NOT) ... WE MAY DIE ... !!!

Let those that are quick to apportion blame in such cases ... never have to be found guilty of making similar errors of judement and assumptions ...

**Fluffy Cat** · 12th August 2011, 19:55

Just wondering....
If the cop had seen a car doing a 3 point turn at the same place time etc but without a fatality.....What would the charge/fine have been?.

**scumdog** · 12th August 2011, 19:57

Originally Posted by Fluffy Cat

Just wondering....
If the cop had seen a car doing a 3 point turn at the same place time etc but without a fatality.....What would the charge/fine have been?.

Carless Use or Fails to Keep Left or??

**CHOPPA** · 12th August 2011, 19:57

Originally Posted by FJRider

Let those that are quick to apportion blame in such cases ... never have to be found guilty of making similar errors of judement and assumptions ...

Im sure if I had turned in front of a police car and killed him I would have got more then a $250 fine.

We all make errors in judgement and it was his fault Paul died so why the fuck not be quick to apportion the blame!

**CHOPPA** · 12th August 2011, 20:00

Originally Posted by scumdog

Yeah, a $25,000 fine would have made the rider come alive again, eh?.

You may have missed the point there einstein

**jerrylynch** · 12th August 2011, 20:01

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5437...s-motorcyclist

**scumdog** · 12th August 2011, 20:02

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

You may have missed the point there einstein

Oh really??...

**Fluffy Cat** · 12th August 2011, 20:03

Whats the fine for that?. Just wondering if its possible that the fine would be higher than that given for causing careless death. Would have thought reckless would have been more appropriate?.

**CHOPPA** · 12th August 2011, 20:06

Originally Posted by Fluffy Cat

Whats the fine for that?. Just wondering if its possible that the fine would be higher than that given for causing careless death. Would have thought reckless would have been more appropriate?.

There should be jail time and no fine