Police killing us again!

[Katman]

avg human reaction time from something unexpected to action is put at 2 secs so that leaves 2 secs to bring the bike from 100km/h to 0km/h. Anytime you want to prove yourself Katman I've got a landy your more than welcome to come hit

Are you saying you can't stop from 100kph in 120 metres?

[Jantar]

Stupid myopic woman who did a Uey in front of me (and nearly killed me) on the brow of a hill just lost her licence for six months and picked up a $2500 fine for her efforts.

Stupid adrenalin filled rozzer who did a Uey in front of motorcyclist (and KILLED him) on the brow of a hill keeps his licence and picks up a $250 for his efforts.

Equal justice for all, yeah right.

The whole "a higher standard should be expected of the police" is just a smokescreen.....

Going by these two posts it sounds as if a LOWER standard is required by the Popo. That would seem illogical, so maybe we should be directing our anger at the stupid judge instead.

[Scuba_Steve]

Are you saying you can't stop from 100kph in 120 metres?

Nope I'm saying stopping a bike going 100km/h in 2secs is not an easy feat. Anytime your willing to put your money where your mouth is I'm more than willing to offer my landy as the "deadline" (hopefully not in a literal sense)

[T.W.R]

avg human reaction time from something unexpected to action is put at 2 secs so that leaves 2 secs to bring the bike from 100km/h to 0km/h.

but here-in lies another question about it all, why emergency break to stop from hitting the/or any obstacle?? why not break enough to avoid
And none of make eye contact crap either...watch a vehicle's front wheels not the twat at the steering wheel.

And I'm not taking skatmans side in this either

[Scuba_Steve]

but here-in lies another question about it all, why emergency break to stop from hitting the/or any obstacle?? why not break enough not avoid

I think that one in most cases would be answered with 1 word... Panic!

[Katman]

Nope I'm saying stopping a bike going 100km/h in 2secs is not an easy feat. Anytime your willing to put your money where your mouth is I'm more than willing to offer my landy as the "deadline" (hopefully not in a literal sense)

Sorry, I don't follow what the 2 secs has to do with it.

Are you saying that the road code stopping distance figures are full of shit?

[FJRider]

but here-in lies another question about it all, why emergency break to stop from hitting the/or any obstacle?? why not break enough not avoid
And none of make eye contact crap either...watch a vehicle's front wheels not the twat at the steering wheel.

And I'm not taking skatmans side in this either

Depending on what that "obstacle" is doing ... stopped/moving forward/moving backwards ... trying to figure it out takes a second or three that you dont have ...

Changing lines during heavy braking isn't easy either ... it would take an experienced road racer to do it properly ...

[T.W.R]

I think that one in most cases would be answered with 1 word... Panic!

well well who would have guessed check my post a page or two back

[T.W.R]

Depending on what that "obstacle" is doing ... stopped/moving forward/moving backwards ... trying to figure it out takes a second or three that you dont have ...

Changing lines during heavy braking isn't easy either ... it would take an experienced road racer to do it properly ...

experienced road rider & racer wasn't he

[Scuba_Steve]

Sorry, I don't follow what the 2 secs has to do with it.

Are you saying that the road code stopping distance figures are full of shit?

well ACC propaganda says in 3 secs @ 100km/h you can drive a rugby field (100m) your saying there was 120m so that would be covered in 4secs @ 100km/h now take out 2 secs for avg human surprise reaction you have 2secs left.
The road code is based on "go 100km/h heres where you start stopping" everything is determined. So not full of shit just not applicable

[MSTRS:Me]

Sorry, I don't follow what the 2 secs has to do with it.

Are you saying that the road code stopping distance figures are full of shit?

Different thing altogether.? 2 secs (or more) is the recommended following distance in the road code. It is intended to allow a buffer for your reaction time. Bear in mind that the vehicle ahead MAY be braking too...but it is still moving in the same direction you are, meaning your actual stopping distance once under brakes is extended.

[swbarnett]

take out 2 secs for avg human surprise reaction

This is when you're using your conscious mind to make the decision. An experienced rider/driver that is using their subconscious can react one hell of a lot faster.

I don't have any empiracal evidence but I am reasonably certain that I've stopped quite comfortably from 100kph in less than 100m ynder a "panic" situation. And I didn't even realise I was braking until halfway through the manoeuvre.

[Katman]

The road code is based on "go 100km/h heres where you start stopping" everything is determined. So not full of shit just not applicable

No it's not. If it was it wouldn't have the different coloured portion called 'distance covered during reaction time'.

[Jack Miller]

I'll ask you the same question I asked Kiwi Graham earlier.....

Are you telling us that you can't stop within 120 metres from 100kph on a dry road?

It's less than 120m if the obstacle is reversing towards you.

[Scuba_Steve]

No it's not. If it was it wouldn't have the different coloured portion called 'distance covered during reaction time'.

and what you have there is an average reaction chart, but a determined reaction time chart, I said surprise reaction like the one where you come over a brow & see a PIG your road not a determined one like when a guy sits next to you and yells "stop"