RS125 rolling chassis for Moto 3 conversion

[rachprice]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek

Interesting, I'm all for a laugh and making fun of myself, as is pete

I am not the only one who saw that comment for what it was, a dig

[Billy]

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Bit of a rant there Billy ..........

Yeah,Its called the truth,Scary shit aye!!!

[bucketracer]

Its not how long you have been involved or races won that makes your opinion valid, its the intelligence of the comment and insight reveled that validates it.

Boasting and being insulting only revels [one] as a dipstick with little to offer .............

Gigglebuttons post was for SS90s benefit but it seems to continue to be relevant.

[jasonu]

tag: this thread is awesome!

Best one since the thread about that Fiberglass fairing company in Tauranga with the fowel mouthed customer service chick!!!

[jasonu]

In the meantime,Why dont you answer the question I asked earlier,Why is it different to allow GP chassis's than engines????

Because an RS125 chassis with an RS125 motor is an RS125 and is generally raced in the 125GP class.

[Billy]

Best one since the thread about that Fiberglass fairing company in Tauranga with the fowel mouthed customer service chick!!!

Fibreglass,Fairing company in Tauranga with a foul mouthed service chick,Whos that then?Cant be mine,Im the only one that works here!!!

And Ouch!!!I better call the 7 people waiting for bodywork for the Hyosung cup and Prolite 250 championship to fuck off then shall I,Hahahahahahaha What a winner

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah Jason was doing this 20 odd yrs ago too.
OK why don't we all just agree that proper racers of real bikes are all much better than Bucket racers & are all much braver & have much much larger penis's than we do & whilst sometimes we are allowed at the grown ups meetings we all stand in corners to change cowering to hide our ever so small appendages.

I'd like to collectively apologise for our non valid sport where grown men ride undersize bikes. I'd also like to apologise for appearing to have fun year after year attending meetings where $40 will get you racing five or six times a day, or 12 if you have a 50 as well. We understand that this is bad form & can't help ourselves even though we have to live with the shame. Further we'd like to thank the real racers for selling us your old slicks that somehow seem to last another 4 seasons racing the above schedule until they are given to someone starting out. We are genuinely pond scum.
Even after all that masturbation?

That being said, at least we can look down on sad old was-been ex 250 prodi racers who now have to make up for their inadequacies by dating beautiful young girls half their age, its pathetic, at least we don't have to endure that. We'll have a whip around for a food parcel or something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek

Nothing 'Tongue in cheek' about his rant as far as I can tell. Anyone that wants to call me a wanker, then carry on to publicly slag me off ain't what I call funny.

[Yow Ling]

Really?Is that why Pete and co introduced the unders and overs class,Have you told Jock Woodley or Al and James Hoogie,Patrick Jones and indeed Johnny Small,John Ross or even Peter Jones himself of your thoughts regarding this,Pull your head out of your arse tosser!!!Ask Avalon Biddle what she learnt from me during her early years in streetstock or Ken Jones and a list waaay to long to mention of others that have benefited from having more experienced riders to learn from,

Yip best you get your detuned grand prix machine ready to beat up all the young fellas with their proper buckets.What a rockstar,RFLMAO.

Jeez man take your heart pills !
Al and James usually run buckets, Pete ran buckets at Methven. Down here over 90% of street stock is young people.
Good on Jock for running SS there are about 3 entrants in the seniorSS class . Up to 40 in buckets at times. Just because you are involved in SS doesnt make it mandatory for everyone to see things your way.
At MCI meets SS and buckets run together You choose 1 class, cant ride 2 bikes at once.
Your awesome knowledge of buckets is thin, you cant run a detuned GP bike in buckets, has to be a roadbike engine, which can be tuned however you like.
I like most other bucket guys run a FXR in a road frame, just like every other racer Im entitled to build anything that is within the rules, if that makes me a Rockstar thats cool.

[Billy]

Because an RS125 chassis with an RS125 motor is an RS125 and is generally raced in the 125GP class.

No Einstein,The question was,How is different to allow a factory built Grand Prix chassis,But not a competition based engine,Read it slowly this time .

[Moooools]

I would hate to get involved with this shit throwing contest, but I can hardly resist.

The way I see it:

Buckets get shit from 'real racers' for looking like buckets.
Buckets also get shit from 'real racers' for not looking like buckets.
There isn't really a middle ground.

People I think are slightly overestimating the number of gp framed buckets. (correct me if I am wrong)
Most people are still running stock frames or aluminium frames from road going machines.

Engine development has gone pretty far, and the ongoing running cost associated with maintaining a stupidly high performance engine wouldn't appeal to many prospective bucketers.

A good chassis sets you back a bit of dosh, but it is a one off. Keeping it going costs next to nothing.

As for people with GP chassis having an unfair advantage, you would have to be blind to walk away from a bucket event and think that there was a time gap between different types of bikes. People ride what they feel comfortable on and can have fun on. If enjoying a bike means spending the earth on a chassis so be it. If you can enjoy a poorish handling commuter frame good on ya. It doesn't really matter in the end.

In conclusion, don't try and control what people use their own property for, or who they sell it too. Let supply and demand work its magic.

Rant over.

[jasonu]

Is it,Why is it then that the so called bucketracers of today have to use a purpose built grandprix chassis the and how is it not an advantage to run such a chassis,Cause Im confident if it wasnt,Then Mr Honda would have mounted his modified CR125 engines in an MB frame!!!

Sorry mate, not totally sure where you are going with that one. Of course it is an advantage to use a GP chassis but it will not automatically make you a winner. The FXR chassis is a proven winner and there are numerous 250 proddie style rigs doing well too. Also, it will take some skill and knowledge to succesfully shoehorn an older (read longer) motor into the 95 chassis to retain the original balance of the chassis.

My reason for using the 95 roller was/is to build a bike that will be nice to ride and will most likely remain competitive in its class on different tracks like Mt Welli and Taupo long after I loose the plot (if I haven't already as I haven't raced in a while). If I show up and am shit, atleast I will know it wasn't the bikes fault.

[F5 Dave]

Nothing 'Tongue in cheek' about his rant as far as I can tell. Anyone that wants to call me a wanker, then carry on to publicly slag me off ain't what I call funny.

Hey Pete. Sorry Dude, I thought you of all people would think that was just a piss take poking a bit of fun especially following after the self depreciating humour above. But I can see how Rach who doesn't know me at all would get upset so sorry if taken the wrong way. I can see the word pathetic looked like several steps too far, but why on earth would I look down on you? Of course I don't, you're a bit of a legend. Only a bit mind.

Guys there's some winding up going on. Here was me thinking this is some of the funniest stuff I've written

[Billy]

Jeez man take your heart pills !
Al and James usually run buckets, Patric ran buckets at the last meet I saw. Pete ran buckets at Methven. Down here over 90% of street stock is young people.
Good on Jock for running SS there are about 3 entrants in the seniorSS class . Up to 40 in buckets at times. Just because you are involved in SS doesnt make it mandatory for everyone to see things your way.
At MCI meets SS and buckets run together You choose 1 class, cant ride 2 bikes at once.
Your awesome knowledge of buckets is thin, you cant run a detuned GP bike in buckets, has to be a roadbike engine, which can be tuned however you like.
I like most other bucket guys run a FXR in a road frame, just like every other racer Im entitled to build anything that is within the rules, if that makes me a Rockstar thats cool.

Jeez Wayne,Get with the program will ya,John Ross,Johnny Small and Peter Jones all ran in the streetstock/Prolite 250 class last weekend at Levels on either Streetstock or prolite machines,As have James and Al hoogie and in fact Al entered his CBR150 in the support class at Ruapuna in Feb,

Re your bucket,It appears too me to be an early RS125 chassis with a roadbased engine,Thereforeits a detuned GP bike,Got it now????

Now isnt there a bucket forum somewhere else in the site for you racers?

[jasonu]

Fibreglass,Fairing company in Tauranga with a foul mouthed service chick,Whos that then?Cant be mine,Im the only one that works here!!!

And Ouch!!!I better call the 7 people waiting for bodywork for the Hyosung cup and Prolite 250 championship to fuck off then shall I,Hahahahahahaha What a winner

This one
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...stomer+service

[Billy]

Sorry mate, not totally sure where you are going with that one. Of course it is an advantage to use a GP chassis but it will not automatically make you a winner. The FXR chassis is a proven winner and there are numerous 250 proddie style rigs doing well too. Also, it will take some skill and knowledge to succesfully shoehorn an older (read longer) motor into the 95 chassis to retain the original balance of the chassis.

My reason for using the 95 roller was/is to build a bike that will be nice to ride and will most likely remain competitive in its class on different tracks like Mt Welli and Taupo long after I loose the plot (if I haven't already as I haven't raced in a while). If I show up and am shit, atleast I will know it wasn't the bikes fault.

Agreed that using a GP chassis wont automatically make you a winner,Neither will fitting a KX/RM/YZ 80 to a GP 125 chassis,So what the difference???