The firearm thread

[Swoop]

Anyone understand whats going on? I thought the Steyr was a good bullpup assault rifle, now its below par.
What have they bought for sniper rifles?

The article says:
"Operations in Afghanistan have identified a need to be able to conduct precision engagements at ranges greater than can be achieved with the current in-service weapon," according to a department evaluation division study."
This is very old news. When the first deployments were made, there was fast realisation that 5.56 wasn't cutting the mustard in the provinces. OK for urban fighting but in open country where our chaps were posted, the 7.62 came back into popularity really quickly. Our war-reserve stocks were immediately raided...


The steyr was a mongrel when first issued to the Army and needed lots of remedial work. The polymers used in the plastic were unable to last in our UV conditions, out of tolerance, etc, etc. The Navy went through a similar crisis with their rifles but to a lesser degree of severity.

Luckily not as bad as the Brit SA-80 disaster though.

[Indiana_Jones]

Great ad for Gun city. Now the shop will be swamped. No doubt one of the current affairs shows will turn up to film it and then hound the shop owner and lucky person buying it with questions "Why do you feel the need for this gun, sir" etc

-Indy

[Wolf]

That Lieth Kocke bloke's a moron. He seems blissfully unaware of the large number of women who shoot and the number of parents who take their kids shooting.

[The Pastor]

hopefully ima get the gun!

[Wolf]

I've just decreased the number of guns around here - sold the SKS. Part of the money's going to go towards some accessories for my .22 - light and mount for night-time and a decent carry case.

[The Pastor]

I think the $1 gun will be like a 2nd hand gun? Dunno, but its sooo mine

[jono035]

I think the $1 gun will be like a 2nd hand gun? Dunno, but its sooo mine

Nah, they'd get skinned. I'd put money on it being one of the Gun City shotties or a JW-15 perhaps.

That said, even a decent rifle would still be cheap compared to the publicity/hype and would make sure that people were hanging out for it next year, too.

[scumdog]

Professor Kevin Clements, director of the National Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies at Otago University, said there were already "more than enough guns" in New Zealand.

"I think that it is a very sick and sad promotion for Father's Day," he said.




Mr Locke said the promotion was the wrong approach to gun sales.


Mr Clements said encouraging people to buy more guns was wrong.

"Gun cultures survive by promoting what is known as 'hyper masculinity'. Such hyper masculinity is somewhat out of sync with a masculinity that favours good parenting, family attachments, equality, sensitivity to women and so on.

"The messages that Gun City are sending are likely to heighten gender divisions and create something of a pall over what should be a day when fathers immerse themselves in family, friends and the joys of home."

A police spokesman said he did not believe the promotion breached the Arms Act.

Who the eff gave Mr Clement the job as Cheif Grinch of an organaisation that I've never even heard of (and can't think of a use for)

Locke is just a publicity and vote seeking twat.

And I bet the media tried its best to get the 'police spokesman' so condemn or criticise the $1 gun idea.

Sheesh, spare me from the Pollyannas of the world - and the 'less fact but more hysteria' media types and their 'reporting'.

[The Pastor]

Nah, they'd get skinned. I'd put money on it being one of the Gun City shotties or a JW-15 perhaps.

That said, even a decent rifle would still be cheap compared to the publicity/hype and would make sure that people were hanging out for it next year, too.

If its either of them i'll sell them and use it to reduce my debt :P

[oldguy]

Arabs Shooting T-Rex .557 hope not a repost

[scumdog]

Any of youz rich bastard watchin' Channel 70 on Sky?

Making an integral silencer/suppressor for a AK47.

[Drunken Monkey]

Any of youz rich bastard watchin' Channel 70 on Sky?

Making an integral silencer/suppressor for a AK47.

Nope, but if it's the series I'm thinking about, I've been saving it up on MySky... (episode 1 was a suppressed shotgun and they fired off the civil war cannon?)

[Road kill]

I have a Browning A5,,which is a semi auto 12g about 30 years old.
I have had heaps of different shooters but had to chuck in the climbing up an down hills thing due the health issues about 4 years ago,so now just keep the A5 for back yard possums which living rural we do get a few of every year.
The A5 is also great for a range of things like walking up bunnys an Hares,close range goats with the right ammo,Birds of course,,,just making a hell of a load of noise an genraly exersizing my hyper male shit stuff,,,WTF,,,,LOL..

[Winston001]

Luckily not as bad as the Brit SA-80 disaster though.

Thanks for that, I hadn't realised the SA-80 posed problems. Interesting.

I heard Wayne Mapp explaining our military buying fiasco and he kept referring to "projects" which personnel didn't have enough time (years) to follow through.

Call me old fashioned but I'd have thought buying new barrels (or whatever) for the Steyr, 203s grenade launchers, Minimis etc would be a one month job. What on earth is a project?

[Mr Merde]

Thanks for that, I hadn't realised the SA-80 posed problems. Interesting.

I heard Wayne Mapp explaining our military buying fiasco and he kept referring to "projects" which personnel didn't have enough time (years) to follow through.

Call me old fashioned but I'd have thought buying new barrels (or whatever) for the Steyr, 203s grenade launchers, Minimis etc would be a one month job. What on earth is a project?

A couple of problems they had with the SA80

1) on full auto sustained fire the barrel wilted very drastically. Soldiers are not allowed to fire full auto with them.

2) The original plastic the stock was made of, reacted badly with the camo cream the soldiers were issued with and the stock started softening and melting.

A project is a method where by a hammer that costs $15 each at mitre 10 suddenly becomes $500 each when delivered to the military.