RIP last of the intelligent give-way rules

[Jantar]

Its just the same as you would apply if you were at a roundabout (albeit with different indicating). Once this new rule change comes in it'll be inconsistent.

As I've said all along the only problem with the current rule is foreigners don't understand it. Once it comes in noone will be able to complain anyway as they'll all be stuck turning right somewhere forever.

How will it be inconsisteent? All roundabouts are CONTROLLED intersections in that they have give way signs on the entry.

[Kickaha]

To be honest I am not entirely sure of the give way rule. Haven't been for years.

Go and hand your licence in then because you don't deserve to have one

[scumdog]

You mean to say that isn't already the case???

The new rule is the same as here in the USA and works very well.
In the town I live in (about 80k population) we have very few uncontrolled intersections. The yanks like stop signs and the rule is 1st stop 1st go and that works very well too.
As for roundabouts, the town planners must have visited NZ as they have installed a lot of them but they forgot to educate the locals about signalling so they don't work as well as they should.

Yeah, but this IS New Zealand, home of the ignorant and the me-me-me mentallity, it's all about what I need, what suits ME.

Four-way-stops are great if everybody agrees to the rules - and ignorant puerile Kiwis won't.

[Usarka]

Four-way-stops are great if everybody agrees to the rules - and ignorant puerile Kiwis won't.

Why don't you knock it off with tehm negative waves. Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here. Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change. Man.

[scumdog]

Why don't you knock it off with tehm negative waves. Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here. Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change. Man.

Cos I am a realist, I know how Kiwis operate.

The glass is always half-empty with me baby...

[crystalball]

Yeah, but this IS New Zealand, home of the ignorant and the me-me-me mentallity, it's all about what I need, what suits ME.

Four-way-stops are great if everybody agrees to the rules - and ignorant puerile Kiwis won't.

lol bugger

[DEATH_INC.]

It's all gonna be ok, a couple of those new speed camera guns and some wrb's will fix it.

[Murray]

Cos I am a realist, I know how Kiwis operate.

The glass is always half-empty with me baby...

Then you drink to much!!

[Woodman]

Go and hand your licence in then because you don't deserve to have one

I agree, I also ride above the speed limit occaisionally too.

[short-circuit]

To be honest I am not entirely sure of the give way rule.

Chk Chk. BOOM.

[thehovel]

Get with it ... you ONLY give way to traffic that has started/is moving BEFORE you do ... thats why people dont stop for stop signs ...

Don't you mean "the first one to the middle of the intersection has right of way".

[Bullitt]

How will it be inconsisteent? All roundabouts are CONTROLLED intersections in that they have give way signs on the entry.

At the moment if I come to a roundabout and a car is coming around in front of me (ie theyre turning right) I have to wait for them to pass before I can go left.

The equivalent with the new rule would be expecting the car on the roundabout to stop for you which clearly doesn't make sense.

I agree theyre a different situation but its the way I learned the original rule as they operated consistently. Now everyone will have to remember opposite rules for similar but slightly different situations.

The other thing I was taught was if you had an accident where you get hit in the drivers door most of the time it'll be you whose at fault. This will no longer apply either.

[Jantar]

At the moment if I come to a roundabout and a car is coming around in front of me (ie theyre turning right) I have to wait for them to pass before I can go left.

That is correct for two reasons. 1. You are waiting at a giveway sign. and

The equivalent with the new rule would be expecting the car on the roundabout to stop for you which clearly doesn't make sense.

2. The roundabout is the straight through Rd and you are entering from a side road at a T intersection. Under what logic would the car on a roundabout have to giveway to one entering?

I agree theyre a different situation but its the way I learned the original rule as they operated consistently. Now everyone will have to remember opposite rules for similar but slightly different situations.

The other thing I was taught was if you had an accident where you get hit in the drivers door most of the time it'll be you whose at fault. This will no longer apply either.

Well, you were taught wrong. Under the current rules if you turn right without giving way then the the car going straight through will hit your passenger door, just as it will under the old (now new) rules.