Booze and responsibility

[oneofsix]

Who is responsible for ensuring the safety of drunks and under aged kicked out of pubs? Also anything else around now to deal with booze responsibly.

[munster]

themselves!

[Scuba_Steve]

themselves!

exactly so why do we put so much pressure & responsibility on the owners of booze providing joints???

[Stirts]

themselves!

THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHIT RIGHT THERE!!!!

[oneofsix]

themselves!

only themselves? No responsibility for those that make the drink available and/or attractive? What about parents and society?
I would agree it is mainly themselves but have we a a society wrong to police drinking so much that it makes it a right of passage?

[Maha]

exactly so why do we put so much pressure & responsibility on the owners of booze providing joints???

We will get to the drug issue later...

[Parlane]

If it was really "themselves". Then there would be no checking of ID's, the age restriction would still apply, and if you got caught drinking you'd be arrested and charged. Takes the onus off the pub/bar/liquor store.

Might work? ...might.

The pubs are in the business to make money, either a door charge or by selling drinks. (Sometimes both.. cunts.)
My belief is that they should also be in the business to look after their paying customers, providing an easily accesible phone to call local numbers, security out in the car park (make sure no one drives home drunk, and to watch the bullshit fights people get in to).

In the end though, the onus is on you. You should know how you're getting home before you get out.

[Stirts]

No responsibility for those that make the drink available and/or attractive?

"She was so attractive, I just had to rape her"!

[Parlane]

"She was so attractive, I just had to rape her"!

So they did a slut walk...

[mashman]

Who is responsible for ensuring the safety of drunks and under aged kicked out of pubs? Also anything else around now to deal with booze responsibly.

it's the govts responsibility.

[Murray]

I have said it before - it should be compulsory for everyone to be bubble wrapped at all times!! If they are not its there own fault if they get hurt!!

[oneofsix]

"She was so attractive, I just had to rape her"!

Ouch. I didn't see that association. I was thinking advertising, enticement etc not bullshit excuses for not taking responsibility for ones action when they hurt others. Sorry if that is understated, there are no excuses for rape.

[Stirts]

I have said it before - it should be compulsory for everyone to be bubble wrapped at all times!! If they are not its there own fault if they get hurt!!

And some people should be wrapped in Gladwrap

[willytheekid]

Who is responsible for ensuring the safety of drunks and under aged kicked out of pubs? Also anything else around now to deal with booze responsibly.

I ran bars & nightclubs all around NZ for 14yrs, so I can safely say:
If it is a reputable establishment, they would not allow underage kids in full stop!, and its EASY to spot a fake ID!
As for drunks, my staff knew my stand in regards to serving drunks....its your fine & your job if you serve a drunk!...sell them some food instead and alert security & myself so we can ensure they are not "feed" drinks or if nessacery -removed from the premise!
So the responcibility IS on the bar manager and their staff! If they come through the door, we look after them! & we take responcibility for them (that was our job), to the point where shouting a taxi for anyone who needed it was covered by a "taxi fund" that we invested in (this ensured our patrons would get home safe & they always apriciated it).
As for drugs!!....if you bought drugs into my bar....well....pitty you!
I had a very good relationship with the local cops and they where MORE than happy to pop down and scrape up what was left of a drug pusher......BUT, as I ran a ROCKBAR! We realised alot of the regulars smoked the wackybacky....easy!, we sent them across the road to a offstreet car park to smoke it....the Cops all knew what they were doing over there, but just walked past and gave Us a wave -as Sarg said to me one night: "we know were they are,what there doing and that we were directing them there....but we also know there being monitored by you & your staff and were happy to turn a blind eye as there not causing any trouble or doing it in sight of the public"....now thats reasonable aint it! (But bring it into the bar....and I would ban you for LIFE! and call the cops!)

[oneofsix]

I have said it before - it should be compulsory for everyone to be bubble wrapped at all times!! If they are not its there own fault if they get hurt!!

News just in, there has been an alarming number of New Zealanders found suffocated in bubble wrap. There were no other signs of physical harm to any of the victims