The new file sharing laws

[Scuba_Steve]

So I doubt anyone will be charged with the new laws. Its just a feel good thing for the govt.

I think we might definitly see things pick up when the Hobits ready, after all thats what brought this law

[steve_t]

The media already reported that ISPs have been given names of people to issue warnings to but as the movie studios haven't paid the $25 administration fees, the ISPs are refusing to issue the warnings

[avgas]

The media already reported that ISPs have been given names of people to issue warnings to but as the movie studios haven't paid the $25 administration fees, the ISPs are refusing to issue the warnings

Hah classic.
I wonder where they get the names from.

Such a big fat waste of time. If people can't download it, they will import it. I think I came back from Shanghai with about 200 dvd's last time. No one battered an eye.

Likewise anyone been to the local markets recently?

[Waxxa]

My IP address changes everytime I restart / reset the router, so do IPs that I had X number of moons ago get tracked...?
Not all torrents are illegal files shared, FWIW. A lot of people seem to have missed that (in the gubbermint for instance).

your IP address may refresh, but your MAC address (unique identification number in every computer) does not and your IP address is always associated with a MAC address!

You can change your ISP provider and in turn get a different IP address each time but the MAC stays the same...busted!

Just pay for your downloads!

[2Seat_Terror]

Ah ok, I didn't know MACs could be tracked like that.
Can change the MAC too (in hardware), if I wanted... Not that I have a need to.

[Scuba_Steve]

Ah ok, I didn't know MACs could be tracked like that.
Can change the MAC too (in hardware), if I wanted... Not that I have a need to.

no not in HW, but you can bullshit a MAC address in SW, but it is the IP they track, they have a record of what IP went to what address at what date.

[steve_t]

Hah classic.
I wonder where they get the names from.

Such a big fat waste of time. If people can't download it, they will import it. I think I came back from Shanghai with about 200 dvd's last time. No one battered an eye.

Likewise anyone been to the local markets recently?

Yeah, true, probably not names but IP address I guess. I can't remember. I think it was on the Herald site or Stuff.

no not in HW, but you can bullshit a MAC address in SW, but it is the IP they track, they have a record of what IP went to what address at what date.

Yeah, MAC spoofing has been around for ages cos if you secure your wifi only through MAC filtering, people can get on by spoofing your MAC address. IIRC each packet of data, even if encrypted contains an unencrypted header containing your MAC address.

[Disco Dan]

I'll make it really simple:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3strikes.net

[avgas]

Hmmmmm MAC you reckon.

So really the can't track shit. I currently are surrounded by 4 computers at arms length. I have another 4 at home.
Using that theory I could get about 16 different warnings before I would have to go to court. And what happens if I sell one of those PC's to someone else.......well if they are tracking the MAC then that person now cops the flack.

Yep, its set to fail. But my god how much money are they going to pour into admining it before they give up?

[steve_t]

AFAIK neither ISPs nor the movie/music companies can trace MAC addresses, nor is the IP address assigned by your ISP related to any of your computers' MAC addresses.

[oneofsix]

AFAIK neither ISPs nor the movie/music companies can trace MAC addresses, nor is the IP address assigned by your ISP related to any of your computers' MAC addresses.

Pretty sure they are tracking IP addresses. Who was using which IP and what time downloaded X Megs of data from fileshare Y. They know which ISPs 'own' which sections of IP addresses so they know who to ask to track the user. You can switch your modem off and on and change IP addresses but the times you have those addresses will be known to your ISPs so the 'industry' can find you ... in theory.
Yes its a fucked up law, a pretense at doing something that will only catch the ignorant or lazy.

[Disco Dan]

Pretty sure they are tracking IP addresses. Who was using which IP and what time downloaded X Megs of data from fileshare Y. They know which ISPs 'own' which sections of IP addresses so they know who to ask to track the user. You can switch your modem off and on and change IP addresses but the times you have those addresses will be known to your ISPs so the 'industry' can find you ... in theory.
Yes its a fucked up law, a pretense at doing something that will only catch the ignorant or lazy.

http://3strikes.net.nz/forum/notices/first-notice

[steve_t]

http://3strikes.net.nz/forum/notices/first-notice

LOL. I hope there are some ISPs charging $200 per allegation to the movie companies!

[Gremlin]

You can switch your modem off and on and change IP addresses but the times you have those addresses will be known to your ISPs so the 'industry' can find you ... in theory.

Only those with true dynamic addressing will have that. Orcon for example (and a few others) an IP address is tied to your username. Ergo, no changing of your IP address (and really funny if a game bans you online for cheating with bad copies etc).

Unsure if what history, and for how long, would be kept of address assignment. Lot of addresses, lots of data etc.