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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    Haha.

    The 12 second rule is a pretty common practice taught by many driving instructors.

    Google '12 second rule' (I can't copy and paste the address) - LTNZ is the first hit and explains it all.
    Thanks for that Dean. You learn something new everyday. What surprised me was how close in distance terms 12 seconds actually is. So in practise I have always been scanning that far ahead, but never realised the theory.

    I am happily standing corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latte View Post
    at 100kph 12 seconds is ~330m (could be wrong, just rattled numbers in my head). Where/Who did this magical 12 seconds come from?
    Same place as the magical 8 glasses of water I would suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    Haha.

    The 12 second rule is a pretty common practice taught by many driving instructors.

    Google '12 second rule' (I can't copy and paste the address) - LTNZ is the first hit and explains it all.
    Doesn't explain what relevance the 12s actually has though, why not 10s? Not that I disagree with the message, it just seems over-specific, and under-justified.

    Quote Originally Posted by wysper View Post
    Same place as the magical 8 glasses of water I would suspect.
    nothing magical about colonics
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    Twelve Seconds

    Open rode, nothing in front of you, straight as.

    Stock crossing sign (or no sign)

    How. What. Why – did s/he maintain control and continue on his/her way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    Haha.

    The 12 second rule is a pretty common practice taught by many driving instructors.

    Google '12 second rule' (I can't copy and paste the address) - LTNZ is the first hit and explains it all.
    Thanks Deano.
    Here's the link: About the 12 Second Rule
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    Having looked at the 12 second rule link...I think it's arse.

    Not arse that you should be looking ahead, identifying potential hazards and planning so that you are prepared when you arrive. Just the 12 seconds thing. Smacks of a gimmicky slogan.

    Also, all this looking around with lots of eye movement.....what a way to create fatigue. Isn't it better (generaly) to look ahead, and use your brain to switch your attention in your field of view?

    Rather than 12 seconds you way as well say 'Be prepared, be vigilant'
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluninja View Post

    Also, all this looking around with lots of eye movement.....what a way to create fatigue. Isn't it better (generaly) to look ahead, and use your brain to switch your attention in your field of view?
    Staring at a point in the distance is the fastest thing to put you to sleep.

    When the eyes are moving the brain is working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Staring at a point in the distance is the fastest thing to put you to sleep.

    When the eyes are moving the brain is working.
    Bit of both I reckon, make sure you are aware enough to see things in you periphery, but also make sure to have a good look at potential hazards around you. Whats-his-name calls it floodlight and spotlight vision.
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    My brain continues to work quite happily without my eyes moving much.....and the technique is one espoused by Keith Code in his books.

    Strange that 'better (generally) to look ahead' becomes 'staring at a fixed point'
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Bit of both I reckon,
    I never said "ignore the distance".

    Staring at it will see you in the shit though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluninja View Post
    My brain continues to work quite happily without my eyes moving much.....
    Bullshit.

    Not happily enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Bullshit.

    Not happily enough.
    Bullshit yourself. Just cos you can't do it, doesn't mean others can't, quite happily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluninja View Post
    Bullshit yourself. Just cos you can't do it, doesn't mean others can't, quite happily.
    You kid yourself all you like.

    When your eyes aren't moving your brain is not thinking of the things it should be at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I never said "ignore the distance".

    Staring at it will see you in the shit though.
    I know, it just sounded like you were saying you can only see what you're looking at directly. Which will get you in the shit too!
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