Ha! Take that Mr Smith!

[Voltaire]

I've been Smithbusting in a small way.

I have my second full rego bike on hold...and have been driving a 40 year old VW to work over the winter....$130 a year full rego....30 to 35 mpg and cheap parts .....some days I take the Norton....also cheap rego.....

[5150]

Isin't it ironic that our ACC minister is also an environment minister? First he says we pollute the country with cars, then the bastard taxes us out of bikes.

[otter]

I'm fine with paying a little extra in ACC because I ride a bike (I use it...) what I can't deal with is having to pay ACC on each of my bikes, even though I'm only riding one at a time. Also, fuck everything about paying more rego on bikes >600cc. Well I guess I'll just have to get a R6 next instead of something a little more sensiable.

I love the logic that the writer in the waikato times is using... bigger bikes go faster, therefore they crash harder, well yes...if you're going over the speed limit sure. By that same logic people in cars over 1.6L or "boy racer" cars should be paying more because they're definately going to be speeding and crash .

[5150]

I'm fine with paying a little extra in ACC because I ride a bike (I use it...) what I can't deal with is having to pay ACC on each of my bikes, even though I'm only riding one at a time. Also, fuck everything about paying more rego on bikes >600cc. Well I guess I'll just have to get a R6 next instead of something a little more sensiable.

I love the logic that the writer in the waikato times is using... bigger bikes go faster, therefore they crash harder, well yes...if you're going over the speed limit sure. By that same logic people in cars over 1.6L or "boy racer" cars should be paying more because they're definately going to be speeding and crash .

And what Mr Smith won't tell you, or little does he know that my RGV 250cc bike can piss all over a 1150 or 1200cc Harley Davidson. So where is the logic in taxing according to cc rating?

[\m/]

If bigger engines are more dangerous, then why are there so many boy racers crashing gutless POS Honda Civics?

[Bald Eagle]

And what Mr Smith won't tell you, or little does he know that my RGV 250cc bike can piss all over a 1150 or 1200cc Harley Davidson. So where is the logic in taxing according to cc rating?

If one takes the time to read Dr Charles Lambs documents on the subject it is clearly proven that the cc rating is not the issue. It was an arbitrary excuse in support of a manufactured financial crisis as justification for (a) increased revenue (b) preparation for privatization / sale as an insurance business.

The National Govt are hell bent on digging a deeper hole and selling any ladders we may have left to climb out with.

Mr Key is quite happy for us to: "John Key said in an interview 'we might just muddle through' difficult economic times internationally"

[Scuba_Steve]

And what Mr Smith won't tell you, or little does he know that my RGV 250cc bike can piss all over a 1150 or 1200cc Harley Davidson. So where is the logic in taxing according to cc rating?

people that can afford those overpriced things called Harley's obviously have moneys so can be extorted for a larger amount .
Bigger bikes cost more so they assume there's more moneys for the extrotion simple as that

[SPman]

cut and paste from ACC propaganda leaflets. Why let rational debate of all the issues get in the way of a good story. Love the quote about the increase % of m/bike accidents which completely overlooks the fact that the number of motorbikes has also increased significantly over the decades and as an accident % of total motorbike numbers the accident rate has actually decreased.

opps silly me this is the interweb and govt spin platform .

Rational debate?
This is New Zealand with an ideology driven government, and Fairfax Media!

"John Key said in an interview 'we might just muddle through' difficult economic times internationally"

As the world leader in "muddling", he should know what he's talking about! The question is, how fucked will the country be at the end of his "muddling through"!! You don't elect governments to "muddle through"!

[Katman]

If one takes the time to read Dr Charles Lambs documents on the subject it is clearly proven that the cc rating is not the issue. It was an arbitrary excuse in support of a manufactured financial crisis as justification for (a) increased revenue (b) preparation for privatization / sale as an insurance business.

You forgot the (c) option.

(c) To prepare us for the day when all we'll be allowed to ride is 125cc step throughs.

[imdying]

Katman, the reality is they can't even stop the natives of New Zealand from killing their own babies, they'll never be able to stop you riding your Katana.

[Katman]

Katman, the reality is they can't even stop the natives of New Zealand from killing their own babies, they'll never be able to stop you riding your Katana.

I don't imagine they will.

But they may well be able to one day stop anyone buying a new bike of that size.

[oneofsix]

Katman, the reality is they can't even stop the natives of New Zealand from killing their own babies, they'll never be able to stop you riding your Katana.

wished they could but when a baby is dead there is not bringing it back. However when Katman rides his Katana he still has it when he has finished but a government could make it too expensive to ride and confiscate it if he hasn't paid.

[imdying]

He'll be long dead by the time they've weaselled that level of draconian power in deeply enough that it can't be ignored/flouted. He has nothing to worry about.

[Katman]

wished they could but when a baby is dead there is not bringing it back. However when Katman rides his Katana he still has it when he has finished but a government could make it too expensive to ride and confiscate it if he hasn't paid.

And the sad fact is that every motorcyclist who uses the road without any regard for other road users and doesn't give a fuck what any other road user thinks of them is playing straight into the governments hand.

We're slowly fast running out of friends.

[bogan]

I don't imagine they will.

But they may well be able to one day stop anyone buying a new bike of that size.

hmmm, black market engineering, I could get in on that