XR200 tips wanted

[husaberg]

Just to carry on. no up and down play but a little side to side. Cant get the oil flinger of, smashed the tool trying.

Rechecked clutch plates and the seem wet in better light.

Cant get flywheel off with remover.

What are you opening hours? I think I need help before I take to it with a hammer.

Bite the bullet and borrow steel or buy or build a spanner for the clutch Hub and Oil centrifugal filter Please.......You can make one out of a old socket or a piece of pipe.

Before you sling it back together please check the kick starter is both engaging fully and more importantly disengaging as I believe this could be (I hope its not as then you will have to split the cases sorry) the source of your banging rather than the your now ex misses.
which i personally always found to be more of a moaner rather than a screamer sorry.

BTW best check out the cam chain before you run the old dog as it seems to have been put together somewhat lacking in love I would also whip off the top of the head so make sure the cam tunnel in the head is not chewed up and there is not silastic everywhere to block up the oil-way also check the restrictor bung is in place as it looks like a bit a dick would throw out.

[nzspokes]

Bite the bullet and borrow steel or buy or build a spanner for the clutch Hub and Oil centrifugal filter Please.......You can make one out of a old socket or a piece of pipe.

Before you sling it back together please check the kick starter is both engaging fully and more importantly disengaging as I believe this could be (I hope its not as then you will have to split the cases sorry) the source of your banging rather than the your now ex misses.
which i personally always found to be more of a moaner rather than a screamer sorry.

Ive got that tool mate. Thats what I broke. I had a maybe 2 foot bar on it. Wouldnt move. I will check the kick start now.

Dont worry, new girlfriend makes up for deficiencies of my ex.

[nzspokes]

The kick start takes approx 1/4 turn to engage. Its hard to turn the motor over when it comes up to compression which is odd as the plug is out. I think I remember it not engaging all the time when is was starting it before. Seems to release ok.

[husaberg]

The kick start takes approx 1/4 turn to engage. Its hard to turn the motor over when it comes up to compression which is odd as the plug is out. I think I remember it not engaging all the time when is was starting it before. Seems to release ok.

I sense a problem there.
Did you follow the link I posted earlier?

http://forums.dirtrider.com/70/76761...ble/index.html

Try turning the motor over by hand and listen to see if the starter gears are fully disengaging also make sure the gear lever shaft is not bent and the gears all engage and disengage before putting it back together.

Sorry I missed the tool had broken I thought that was the screwdriver. Are you using a drift to free off the threads just a tap mind you and or an impact driver.

PS when you say can get the flywheel off with the puller can you explain the process you have used on it thus far.

[nzspokes]

I sense a problem there.
Did you follow the link I posted earlier?

http://forums.dirtrider.com/70/76761...ble/index.html

I did. Ok so Its got to come apart. Which I dont mind. If I could get it apart.

I would rather find a problem that I can fix.

[husaberg]

I did. Ok so Its got to come apart. Which I dont mind. If I could get it apart.

I would rather find a problem that I can fix.

You seem to have dealt with the ex misses correctly

Please remember the bit I suggested earlier about the trusted Honda Workshop.
Best if it is stater gears start with a Shinny new replica engine I would suggest as it is more fun to ride than fix a dog.
but if you are the determined type the starter geared have an uprated fix in later years and other upgraded parts. Or you can find a XL125s motor and switch the crank and top end over but it will still be an old motor. I would start new and maybe build up the old motor as finances allow into a giant killer.

[nzspokes]

I sense a problem there.
Did you follow the link I posted earlier?

http://forums.dirtrider.com/70/76761...ble/index.html

Try turning the motor over by hand and listen to see if the starter gears are fully disengaging also make sure the gear lever shaft is not bent and the gears all engage and disengage before putting it back together.

Sorry I missed the tool had broken I thought that was the screwdriver. Are you using a drift to free off the threads just a tap mind you and or an impact driver.

PS when you say can get the flywheel off with the puller can you explain the process you have used on it thus far.

I got a 4 pin tool from a mate, thats what broke.

Flywheel tool just winds in on a t handle. Guessing its not up to the job.

I want to get into see Barty, just hard with my work being very busy. I suspect he would fly through it.

Should have a manual turn up tomorrow.

i am going to a Bike mechanic to pick up a chain tomorrow. Will take motor and ask if he can pull off needed bits.

[husaberg]

I got a 4 pin tool from a mate, thats what broke.

Flywheel tool just winds in on a t handle. Guessing its not up to the job.

I want to get into see Barty, just hard with my work being very busy. I suspect he would fly through it.

Should have a manual turn up tomorrow.

i am going to a Bike mechanic to pick up a chain tomorrow. Will take motor and ask if he can pull off needed bits.

PS a dozen beers goes along way esp on a Friday afternoon.You would be amazed what can be accomplished with a dozen little cans.ESP near knock off time, Find a old fat dude that looks like he enjoys them.

PS have a look on You tube for dismantling an XR200 motor And see if you are missing a step with the puller.Just a guess

[nzspokes]

You seem to have dealt with the ex misses correctly

Please remember the bit I suggested earlier about the trusted Honda Workshop.
Best if it is stater gears start with a Shinny new replica engine I would suggest as it is more fun to ride than fix a dog.
but if you are the determined type the starter geared have an uprated fix in later years and other upgraded parts. Or you can find a XL125s motor and switch the crank and top end over but it will still be an old motor. I would start new and maybe build up the old motor as finances allow into a giant killer.

So the starter gears are a problem on these? Im happy to rebuild mine. But want to move forward on it. Im stuck right now.

[nzspokes]

That Forza motor is looking good right about now. At least it will run and be reliable.

[husaberg]

So the starter gears are a problem on these? Im happy to rebuild mine. But want to move forward on it. Im stuck right now.

Right as I see it the engine is possibly a nail. Although we don't know for sure yet. but its not looking good thus far.

Take it to a Workshop with a dozen cold ones on a Friday afternoon. Approach an old wise one. Get him to do an quick going over and see if it is worth preserving with get an indication on the cost for the bits needed.

Compare that to the cost of a new Chinese motor and only then you can sort of informed decision.The Honda will be a higher quality motor but is second hand and has been subject to many years of wear. The parts to rebuilt the Honda may be more than buying a Chinese motor without allowing for labour but it is rewarding to rebuild an old motor. If you decide to rebuild get some specialist help from the trade or someone with experience building and working on one of these.

[nzspokes]

Right as I see it the engine is possibly a nail.But we don't know for sure yet.but its not looking good thus far.

Take it to a dealer with a dozen cold ones on a Friday. Get him to do an quick going over and see if it is worth preserving with get an indication on the cost for the bits needed.

Compare that to the cost of a new Chinese motor and only then you can sort of informed decision.The Honda will be a higher quality motor but is second hand and has been subject to many years of wear. The parts to rebuilt the Honda may be more than buying a Chinese motor without allowing for labour but it is rewarding to rebuild an old motor. If you decide to rebuild get some specialist help from the trade or someone with experience building and working on one of these.

Thats a fair call. I would be happy to make a call then. I did find some metal filings in the oil flinger. In saying that the top of the motor looks good. I suspect the 230 kit was fitted to a old bottom end.

I dont doubt the quality of the Forza motor, and would be a real fun project. And Cavey seems a good dude to deal with. It does max my budget out. And from the vid the motor sounds great.

[husaberg]

Thats a fair call. I would be happy to make a call then. I did find some metal filings in the oil flinger. In saying that the top of the motor looks good. I suspect the 230 kit was fitted to a old bottom end.

I dont doubt the quality of the Forza motor, and would be a real fun project. And Cavey seems a good dude to deal with. It does max my budget out. And from the vid the motor sounds great.

I hear all this talk about a 230 kit can someone fill me in on what it is.I ask as the Honda xr200 is not capable for a large increase in bore 4.5mm (70mm) is bloody hard and needs case work and new sleeve which would only still give 222cc. So to get to 230 would need to be stroked from my experience with them. I am happy to be proven wrong though.

[nzspokes]

I hear all this talk about a 230 kit can someone fill me in on what it is.I ask as the Honda xr200 is not capable for a large increase in bore 4.5mm (70mm) is bloody hard and needs case work and new sleeve which would only still give 222cc. So to get to 230 would need to be stroked from my experience with them. I am happy to be proven wrong though.

Ive not been able to find out what this kit is. Ive not found any online reference to it. Its part of why I want it apart to find out. He had another later bike that he said it had one in as well. My guess is sleeve, rod and piston.

Im gunna go try and get the top off.

[husaberg]

Ive not been able to find out what this kit is. Ive not found any online reference to it. Its part of why I want it apart to find out. He had another later bike that he said it had one in as well. My guess is sleeve, rod and piston.

Im gunna go try and get the top off.

My guess is it will be only 1mm oversize at best a rod does nothing for capacity. if it was stroked you should see a spacer below the barrel.or a special piston but for it too work nice it should have a longer rod and a spacer.

I have an idea for a cheap OS piston for one and I will share with those that are interested. Have a look at the Vincent Crabtree site on the problem of the XR200 i posted earlier to get a look of the ideas for the XR200 and other Related Honda's. I will post it again for those that missed it.

http://vincentcrabtree.co.uk/XR200.aspx