ZX6R video for your viewing pleasure

**Westy_mate** · 18th October 2011, 17:29

Originally Posted by Brett

Gremlin is bang on the money. But I see from your comments that you already know you fucked up

From watching your clip, the speed is hardly the issue in that corner, it was the line and the target fixation. Even with your poor line, you (IMO) had plenty of room to adjust and make it through the corner. However, experience is the only way of ensuring that if you find you have committed to a corner wrong, you adjust rather than freak out. We've all been there, we've all been new to riding and had moments where the brain just refuses to think clearly, we freak out and do what we shouldn't, in your case, stand the bike up by grabbing a handful of brakes instead of turning the bike into the corner.
How fast do you think you went into that corner?

100 maybe? around there at least. I cant speak for every newish rider but yeah its always been a reaction of mine to grab a handful of brake when freaking out.

**Brett** · 18th October 2011, 17:30

Originally Posted by 5150

Watching the vid and reading these comments does make me reasses my own riding ability, and I will still never admit that after 30 odd years of riding I am a good, safe and competent rider. We learn every single day we take our bikes out on the road. Some of those lessons are easy, and some have a happy ending whether due to our skill or simply luck. yet others end up not so lucky or with a good ending.
I take off my hat to any person who has the guts to admit that they are still learning and have acknowledged their mistakes and learned something from them. Only then our roads will become safer.

Absolutely, I am with you here. Plenty of the high and mighty in here who have *never* made a mistake. Only time I have crashed in the last 4 years was a highside...leaving my driveway. How's that for stupid? Most of us have the occasional "oh shit" moment due to a lapse in concentration, unforeseen circumstances such as goats, sheep, cows running across the road or whatever, it is just that experience sharpens the skillset and we're able to (often...touch wood) carry out evasive, corrective action. But we can't expect all new riders to do this.
I remember one learner ride we took a few years back, we had 3 or 4 new 250cc riders crash one after the other on the same corner, right after each other because each target fixated on the rider in front of them crashing. People make mistakes, don't bash them about it unless they refuse to learn from it. This dude seems keen to learn from his mistake and the only one hurt was him and his machine.

**Brett** · 18th October 2011, 17:33

Originally Posted by Westy_mate

100 maybe? around there at least. I cant speak for every newish rider but yeah its always been a reaction of mine to grab a handful of brake when freaking out.

Most new(ish) riders have the same issues. It is instinct to grab a handful of brakes when you freak out. My first crash on my 250cc was the same. Cocked up a line through a very twisty set of roads, freaked out, grabbed brakes, rode into ditch at about 50kph.

It takes experience to get to the point where you can fight that urge and instead commit the bike to the corner. Most racers on here will tell you that the tyres on your bike can hold on a lot longer than you think they can.

**Westy_mate** · 18th October 2011, 17:35

Originally Posted by Brett

Absolutely, I am with you here. Plenty of the high and mighty in here who have *never* made a mistake. Only time I have crashed in the last 4 years was a highside...leaving my driveway. How's that for stupid? Most of us have the occasional "oh shit" moment due to a lapse in concentration, unforeseen circumstances such as goats, sheep, cows running across the road or whatever, it is just that experience sharpens the skillset and we're able to (often...touch wood) carry out evasive, corrective action. But we can't expect all new riders to do this.
I remember one learner ride we took a few years back, we had 3 or 4 new 250cc riders crash one after the other on the same corner, right after each other because each target fixated on the rider in front of them crashing. People make mistakes, don't bash them about it unless they refuse to learn from it. This dude seems keen to learn from his mistake and the only one hurt was him and his machine.

thank you. I am keen to learn from my mistake, i want to get better. I bet half the guys posting shit here dont have the guts to own up and say "im not perfect", they would rather bash on some other sod like myself.

Oh im glad i was wearing all my gear!

**Madness** · 18th October 2011, 17:39

Originally Posted by Westy_mate

Ill post videos of my riding till the day i die and nobody can tell me differently. you dont like them? dont watch them and no shit! nobody likes the Acc Levy's.

I will recover and i will ride again, wherever the fuck i want to

I'm not telling you to do anything. You've posted videos on a motorcycling website of your own squid-like riding and I'm giving you what I honestly believe is constructive feedback. You have fallen well short of delivering a video for my viewing pleasure - they are in fact quite disturbing.

Edit; I am not perfect by any means and have crashed (many moons ago) before.

**DrunkenMistake** · 18th October 2011, 17:40

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

I'd say that's 4 minutes of my life wasted, but I'd be lying.

I fast forwarded.

I cant believe I used some of my bandwidth for that shit.

Originally Posted by bsasuper

Ohhhh, now when you said crash it makes sence

I like how this thread got better and better..

Originally Posted by Katman

Now there's a surprise.

Out of the woodwork comes katman haha

Originally Posted by bogan

I've had bigger crashes taking a shit. How did you injure yourself bad enough to miss work? Crash bungs certainly made back their purchase price though!

LOL, that awkward moment when you destroy the toilet at your local..

Originally Posted by Westy_mate

You guys want the crash?

fine here ya go,

http://youtu.be/izBv1nbX--Q

LOL Ever heard of taking a corning? All I seen was straight line riding, straight line riding, straight line riding, mediocre corner, BOOM STRAIGHT LINE hahaha

Originally Posted by Dodgy_Matt

Give up riding bikes....

Originally Posted by Usarka

Should have turned the corner bro.....

Ahaha ^^

Originally Posted by hayd3n

learn how to ride a bike

and learn how to crash ive had 2x 80+kms accidents and no acc claims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naQciNAAMl8
one due to shitty road conditions ( my fault )
and one due to a couple of vehicle's mid blind corner
i am pleased you wore the gear!!!!!

I am with Hayden on this one, I havnt personally seen his crashes, but I have seen photos and heard stories, I have also seen the tank of his second mentioned crash where his balls of steel dented the tank...
Gear saves lives, So what did you do in the end? damage the wanking hand?

**Latte** · 18th October 2011, 17:41

I think I met you guys on a Thursday night ride last summer, you were with another guy on a 250 (I was one of the Aprilia riders). Just want to say hope you heal up, and if you do keep riding there's a couple of guys on that thursday night ride that do rider training (one road, one track from memory). Get as much training as you can, not only will you be safer out there, you'll actually get more enjoyment out of it.

And the guys being "harsh" really are bang on the money - that was some pretty terrible riding (sorry).

**Westy_mate** · 18th October 2011, 17:43

Originally Posted by Madness

I'm not telling you to do anything. You've posted videos on a motorcycling website of your own squid-like riding and I'm giving you what I honestly believe is constructive feedback. You have fallen well short of delivering a video for my viewing pleasure - they are in fact quite disturbing.

Edit; I am not perfect by any means and have crashed (many moons ago) before.

awesome! well thanks for your comments

its simple really. you find them disturbing then dont watch them.

**Westy_mate** · 18th October 2011, 17:45

Originally Posted by Latte

I think I met you guys on a Thursday night ride last summer, you were with another guy on a 250 (I was one of the Aprilia riders). Just want to say hope you heal up, and if you do keep riding there's a couple of guys on that thursday night ride that do rider training (one road, one track from memory). Get as much training as you can, not only will you be safer out there, you'll actually get more enjoyment out of it.

And the guys being "harsh" really are bang on the money - that was some pretty terrible riding (I don't recall all the straightlining shown in the video).

i couldn't care less how "bang on" they are, their not the ones who just got out of hospital and I do really get tired of their shit.

thanks mate, could have/should have been a lot worse, i know the rider training your talking of, i hit it up as much as i can.

**Westy_mate** · 18th October 2011, 17:47

Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake

I cant believe I used some of my bandwidth for that shit.

I like how this thread got better and better..

Out of the woodwork comes katman haha

LOL, that awkward moment when you destroy the toilet at your local..

LOL Ever heard of taking a corning? All I seen was straight line riding, straight line riding, straight line riding, mediocre corner, BOOM STRAIGHT LINE hahaha

Ahaha ^^

I am with Hayden on this one, I havnt personally seen his crashes, but I have seen photos and heard stories, I have also seen the tank of his second mentioned crash where his balls of steel dented the tank...
Gear saves lives, So what did you do in the end? damage the wanking hand?

Do you really have nothing to do but prowl kiwibiker?

you my friend make my day haha and no, im right handed, however your mum did some considerable damage to my left nut a couple of nights ago.

**Madness** · 18th October 2011, 17:48

Originally Posted by Westy_mate

its simple really. you find them disturbing then dont watch them.

I'll try not to in future, trust me. If you had of been more accurate with your choice of thread title (e.g) "Tosser on a ZX6R with no skills at all rides like a fucking muppet and crashes" I probably wouldn't be wasting my bandwith on you right now.

**DrunkenMistake** · 18th October 2011, 17:48

Originally Posted by Westy_mate

Do you really have nothing to do but prowl kiwibiker?

you my friend make my day haha and no, im right handed, however your mum did some considerable damage to my left nut a couple of nights ago.

I should think so, that bitch is at least 200 kilo,
But hey, some men cant do any better ae.

**Dodgy_Matt** · 18th October 2011, 17:54

Originally Posted by Madness

I'll try not to in future, trust me. If you had of been more accurate with your choice of thread title (e.g) "Tosser on a ZX6R with no skills at all rides like a fucking muppet and crashes" I probably wouldn't be wasting my bandwith on you right now.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Madness again.

Hahahhhahaha *snort* hahahahaa

**Westy_mate** · 18th October 2011, 17:54

Originally Posted by Madness

I'll try not to in future, trust me. If you had of been more accurate with your choice of thread title (e.g) "Tosser on a ZX6R with no skills at all rides like a fucking muppet and crashes" I probably wouldn't be wasting my bandwith on you right now.

But you still are... but please keep going, this is very "constructive". I can really see how half the comments ive received so far can help improve my riding ability.