To the raving poolick on the red Ninja 250 with the noisy pipe

**DR650gary** · 23rd October 2011, 19:04

Originally Posted by Katman

Sounds like you'd struggle to see much further than the end of your nose anyway.

I have heard the measure of a man is his ability to discuss the subject with descending to insult, guess you don't measure up to much do you?

**Katman** · 23rd October 2011, 19:06

Originally Posted by DR650gary

I have heard the measure of a man is his ability to discuss the subject with descending to insult, guess you don't measure up to much do you?

If you think that's insulting it's probably lucky you haven't been on here long.

**flyingcrocodile46** · 23rd October 2011, 19:15

Originally Posted by Katman

Sounds like you'd struggle to see much further than the end of your nose anyway.

Funny shit right there. You just can't help yourself can you.

Old one eye squawking 'your too short sighted to see, you better follow me'

FWIW Your arrogance and negative approach in attempting to tell others how we should behave has the exact opposite affect on me (and likely others). As I have aged my riding habits and attitude has greatly improved and generally agree with your desired objectives but when clueless tactless morons like you attempt to preach at me (and others), I feel compelled to act and ride badly just to be sure that I share as little as possible in common with fucktards like you. I hope you sleep well in the knowledge that your shit message delivery is more than likely causing some individuals to put themselves in harms way.

**scumdog** · 23rd October 2011, 19:21

Originally Posted by DR650gary

To be perfectly honest, I really don't give a shit how others ride and I certainly don't give a shit what others think about my riding.

I also don't give a shit what other people think about motorcycles or those who ride them. Whether some dumbass on a Ninja or a nanny rider make any impact on the general public I very much doubt.

That means have your fun but don't impinge on mine.

Just my thoughts.....before beer

Go the Blacks

But while YOU don't 'give a shit' TPTB people who make rules and boost ACC levies etc sure as hell 'give a shit'.

So while you may ride in a manner that doesn't upset people not all are like you - and they're the ones the Govt takes notice of (Indirectly a lot of the time).

**Katman** · 23rd October 2011, 19:21

Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46

I hope you sleep well in the knowledge that your shit message delivery is more than likely causing some individuals to put themselves in harms way.

For you, I'll make an exception.

**DR650gary** · 23rd October 2011, 19:24

Originally Posted by Katman

If you think that's insulting it's probably lucky you haven't been on here long.

Glib, but my point is clear.

**Ocean1** · 23rd October 2011, 19:31

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

This is the first thread like this I've ever started.

Did you just cross the border to old age, dude?

Originally Posted by DR650gary

"your right to swing your arms ends where my nose begins".

Nice! I may have to appropriate that if you don't mind. Oh, right, you don't! Cheers.

Originally Posted by scumdog

But while YOU don't 'give a shit' TPTB people who make rules and boost ACC levies etc sure as hell 'give a shit'.

Using our own money to pay for our (limited) health care doesn't give anyone right right to dictate how we live our lives, dude.

**DR650gary** · 23rd October 2011, 19:35

Originally Posted by scumdog

But while YOU don't 'give a shit' TPTB people who make rules and boost ACC levies etc sure as hell 'give a shit'.

So while you may ride in a manner that doesn't upset people not all are like you - and they're the ones the Govt takes notice of (Indirectly a lot of the time).

Perhaps if we all looked at our own actions and stopped trying to tell others what to think and do, we may all be better off.

I am quite sure that I have in the past and will again in the future upset others with my riding. I don't try to and I don't really try not to. I just ride for my pleasure and usually manage to do so legally most of the time.

If my exhaust is too loud for you, if I ride faster around a corner than you believe is safe, tough.

If i choose to legally lane split and that pisses you off, tough. If I choose to have a quick flick and run foul of the law, tough. My problem so don't try to involve yourself.

I am 56 and have riding since I was 15. I have had one speeding ticket so obviously I need to try harder.

I am not Katman, you have your rights I have mine. You are entitled to your point of view, I to mine.

If we meet for a beer, you have as much right to defend your position as I have to mine. Doesn't mean either of us are right...or wrong.

Insults are for babies. Make your point but make it honorably.

**Katman** · 23rd October 2011, 19:42

Originally Posted by DR650gary

Perhaps if we all looked at our own actions.......

I am 56 and have riding since I was 15. I have had one speeding ticket so obviously I need to try harder.

It nevers fails to amaze me how some, who clearly aren't the object of my ire, take things so personally.

**ducatilover** · 23rd October 2011, 19:48

Originally Posted by Katman

It nevers fails to amaze me how some, who clearly aren't the object of my ire, take things so personally.

I think it's fuckin' funny.

**rachprice** · 23rd October 2011, 20:29

While I'm not one to tell people how to ride, (im most definitely not perfect) some people you can see are just gonna end up hurting someone else, that I have a problem with

Not bout the original guy but a lot of non-riders think a lot of things riders do are horrifyingly dangerous and scary, really aren't
It's all perspective

But I understand the need for good public perception