Occupy Dunedin?

[mashman]

That's pretty much the response I figured I'd get.
Childish nonsense from an idiot who appears to be typical of the "occupy wherever" group (apart from apparently either not owning a tent or being to lazy to occupy anything other than his keyboard).

I'm surprised you bothered, again.
How do you know that the "occupy whatever" groups are idiots? You're correct on my count, but tarring the occupying folk with my brush says more about you than it does about them... I've still got buckets of sand.

Error 404 supports your cause?

You can stop trying - I came to the conclusion you were an idiot quite some time ago.

The link works for me... here's some accompanying text

I'm not trying anything, just passing along some information and commenting in my own idiotic way

[BoristheBiter]

Have you been and spoken with the protesters?

They weren't doing anything illegal... but by all means go ahead and mace them because they won't do what a policeman says... that's fucked up imo. Funny, I didn't see the cops when the students followed up the protest by silently lining the path to the principles car, sitting cross legged in the same way as the sprayed folk. Nothing like a little consistency.

There's a fundamental difference? If we had camped on parliaments grounds we may have had a completely different outcome.

@ confrontational. A peaceful protest is just that, nothing confrontational about it other than pissing someone off.

Yes I have considered it at quite some length. It's a life changer . If I can attribute a single societal issue to the system, then the system is at fault. As you know yourself, there are many issues and NONE of them are improving. My conclusion is that the system is at fault... after all we change the people in charge and they change their (and by default society's) tactics (tui?) and yet nothing changes. My vote goes against the system.

What would you do if me and some mates came and sat down on your driveway?
Set up our tents and just decided to stay there?
We would sit on the end of the drive as to be on council land, and every time you came passed we would just shout the first thing that came into our heads.

My guessing is you would get sick of it very quickly and would want the police to remove us as soon as possible.

[mashman]

What would you do if me and some mates came and sat down on your driveway?
Set up our tents and just decided to stay there?
We would sit on the end of the drive as to be on council land, and every time you came passed we would just shout the first thing that came into our heads.

My guessing is you would get sick of it very quickly and would want the police to remove us as soon as possible.

ha ha haaaaaa, I'd probably offer you a beer and an apology for running your tent over at some point in the future. The funny thing is, there's an island at the bottom of my drive, so you'll likely get run over in the middle of the night by the hoons, or perhaps the lorries that come barrelling down the road during the day.

I doubt the wife would be too chuffed though, and that'd be the thing that would have me reaching for the phone... unless you have a good reason to be there of course, then I might talk the wife around and offer you the use of my bins and toilet.

[BoristheBiter]

ha ha haaaaaa, I'd probably offer you a beer and an apology for running your tent over at some point in the future. The funny thing is, there's an island at the bottom of my drive, so you'll likely get run over in the middle of the night by the hoons, or perhaps the lorries that come barrelling down the road during the day.

I doubt the wife would be too chuffed though, and that'd be the thing that would have me reaching for the phone... unless you have a good reason to be there of course, then I might talk the wife around and offer you the use of my bins and toilet.

And that there is the clincher, and regardless of answer after a while it just becomes tiresome the the reason is forgotten.

From most of the reports around the world this is know the case, so the police are moving them on and different country's have different responses.

[mashman]

And that there is the clincher, and regardless of answer after a while it just becomes tiresome the the reason is forgotten.

From most of the reports around the world this is know the case, so the police are moving them on and different country's have different responses.

Those who didn't care in the first place might forget.

Oh, so the world have been asked have they? I think not. Carry on believing the hype. Until you have the debate and it's 100% public and accessible to EVERYONE on the planet, Africa/China/India included, then the reports are wrong as ALL of the votes aren't in. The 1% know this and you and yours will be in a minority.

[BoristheBiter]

Those who didn't care in the first place might forget.

Oh, so the world have been asked have they? I think not. Carry on believing the hype. Until you have the debate and it's 100% public and accessible to EVERYONE on the planet, Africa/China/India included, then the reports are wrong as ALL of the votes aren't in. The 1% know this and you and yours will be in a minority.

What rock have had your head stuck under? No one cared in the first place or it would have been bigger than it is.
If me and mine are the minority then why has it not gone the way of places like Libya or Egypt? know those are the words and feelings of the majority. Those are the protests that cause change not some whining hippy's that want some free money camped in a park.

You are deluded if you think you and yours are a majority.

[mashman]

What rock have had your head stuck under? No one cared in the first place or it would have been bigger than it is.
If me and mine are the minority then why has it not gone the way of places like Libya or Egypt? know those are the words and feelings of the majority. Those are the protests that cause change not some whining hippy's that want some free money camped in a park.

You are deluded if you think you and yours are a majority

Noone? Not everyone can drop their lives and go protest camping. If it weren't for my family I'd be there and I would imagine there are quite a few others in a similar position. I highly doubt that the "idea" is limited to those few thousand that are actually there. I could be very wrong, but if people were given a real choice between the way it is and a more equitable society (note not equal) and they actually gave it more than a passing thought, I reckon me and mine would be the majority.

I never said you are the minority, I said will be... given that everyone on the planet would get to vote for a potentially, probably, better way of life (at least in the immediate future). ... Why did Libya and Egypt "revolt"? I'm guessing for very similar reasons that the Occupy crowds are gathering. Did the majority of Egyptians or Libyans take to the streets, let alone take up arms to fight? No they didn't. Does that mean there was a silent majority? I'm going for yes, but please feel free to deny that that was the case and call me deluded.

[Virago]

Hey, I went past the Octagon in Dunners yesterday and saw a heap of people camped there, are they Christchurch refugees or something?

Poor buggers looked abit damp....

Oh dear ... how sad ... never mind ...

Perhaps they should go occupy Miami ...

There is a face-saving solution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunedin,_Florida

[mashman]

There is a face-saving solution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunedin,_Florida

Would you like help packing your bags?

[BoristheBiter]

Noone? Not everyone can drop their lives and go protest camping. If it weren't for my family I'd be there and I would imagine there are quite a few others in a similar position. I highly doubt that the "idea" is limited to those few thousand that are actually there. I could be very wrong, but if people were given a real choice between the way it is and a more equitable society (note not equal) and they actually gave it more than a passing thought, I reckon me and mine would be the majority.

I never said you are the minority, I said will be... given that everyone on the planet would get to vote for a potentially, probably, better way of life (at least in the immediate future). ... Why did Libya and Egypt "revolt"? I'm guessing for very similar reasons that the Occupy crowds are gathering. Did the majority of Egyptians or Libyans take to the streets, let alone take up arms to fight? No they didn't. Does that mean there was a silent majority? I'm going for yes, but please feel free to deny that that was the case and call me deluded.

So let me see if i get this right;
1) you and the unwashed masses want a redistribution of wealth for no other reason than you think you deserve it.
2) you think the majority of people are behind this.
3) this will make the world a better place.

[mashman]

So let me see if i get this right;
1) you and the unwashed masses want a redistribution of wealth for no other reason than you think you deserve it.
2) you think the majority of people are behind this.
3) this will make the world a better place.

1) Nope.
2) Would be. Yup.
3) Definately

[BoristheBiter]

1) Nope.
2) Would be. Yup.
3) Definately

So what do you think they want?

[mashman]

So what do you think they want?

Now that would be telling ... tricky one as they haven't made any demands and their position isn't clear ... but the end game from my perspective, I would expect that they want common sense to prevail... which would require parties on all sides to sit down and find real world workable solutions to the issues that the majority have to face. Throwing money at problems doesn't seem to be working very well.

[BoristheBiter]

Now that would be telling ... tricky one as they haven't made any demands and their position isn't clear ... but the end game from my perspective, I would expect that they want common sense to prevail... which would require parties on all sides to sit down and find real world workable solutions to the issues that the majority have to face. Throwing money at problems doesn't seem to be working very well.

So in other words they don't have a fucking clue on either whats wrong, how to fix it or even what they think is best.

and you try and stand up for this

[mashman]

So in other words they don't have a fucking clue on either whats wrong, how to fix it or even what they think is best.

and you try and stand up for this

Of course they do, on all counts. And that's why I stand up for it. It may not be exactly what I would prefer, money and value system gone etc..., but the basic principle of people first is in line with one of my high priority requirements for society.